It’s kind of my understanding that governments chase the Olympics because it’s an economic WIN for them. Sort of.

At least, to the extent that they get to eat up a huge amount of land for a gigantic public works project, which pays for half of itself eventually when the Olympics occur, and then earns all sorts of urban renewal benefits later.

Olympians eat a lot of food.

Living & working in the New York area, I’m very familiar with refusing to be terrorized by terrorism. In fact, I took the PATH and subway trains into/out of the World Trade Center station just this morning. Life moves on, if for no other reason then because we have no choice.

None of that merits a “YAWN” reactionn though (IMHO). It IS a big deal, regardless of how it affects your day-to-day life. It speaks to the size & immediacy of the threat, and informs our decisions about how we handle it.

I agree with Andrew Wade – our actions of the past few years have made the world much less friendly for organized terrorism. In fact, I read just the other day that the preferred mode of illicit communication in the Middle East has become physically transferring CD-ROMs via motorbike between locations – a far cry from the open use of cell phones and web sites that existed before 9/11. The fact that anyone (original Al Qaeda or not) is able to effectively coordinate such an attack doesn’t mean our efforts have been for naught, but it does suggest the need to redouble our efforts.

If I had to guess, I would say it probably has a lot to do with what Tom brought up, that the English have been dealing with bombs and such for a long time. It would be like terrorists trying to bring New York to it’s knees by unloading a bus full of homicidal maniacs onto the streets. Yes, it would be a bad, bad thing, but a bad thing with which the citizenry know how to handle from long experience.

OTOH, what Guy said about the Olympic venue doing more damage to day-to-day life has got to be true. It’s rather like when the King or Queen would take their whole entourage and squat for a week in the ancestral home a “favored” member of nobility, driving the luckless host to bankruptcy and eating him out of house and home. On the surface, it’s an honor, but behind the facade lies utter ruin. Hard to make a dent, terrorism-wise, in the citizenry and economy that just got nailed with the “honor” of hosting the Olympic Games. Ouch.

Andrew got it, Brian didn’t. I am glad though that, so far, out of maybe 30 people who have commented in a couple locations I posted similar remarks only 2 have assumed I’m trying to disrespect the dead or somesuch.

Brian, we all mourn, Londoners just aren’t interested in allowing this sort of barbaric behaviour to disrupt their lives. We’ve got a LOT of very real present and future problems that may actually be solvable, and we’re going to get on with dealing with those rather than sit around moping.

You want to break down and cry for hours over something that hasn’t actually happened to YOU, do it on your own time, we’re moving on, and to quote a pretty cheesy cliche, thus the terrorists lose :P.

No I don’t think the terrorist will have won if we respond or anything like that. Yes we got rid of Saddam Hussein[1], but we also turfed the taliban, and despite the mess in Iraq it’s not likely to turn into a theocracy. So all in all a big loss for Al-Quaeda. That’s not likely to change.

[1] Secular leader of a moslem-dominated country, and so hated by OBL & Co. Yeah he started making guestures towards religiousity in his later years, but the regime was still pretty secular, and remember that OBL & Co are a bit nuts; skuttlebutt I heard was that they were schisming in past decades because they weren’t meeting each others insane standards.

> The biggest aspect of this news (in my opinion)
> is that Al Qaeda is still capable of pulling
> something like this off. We’ll know more about
> how elaborate a plot it was, but the coordinated
> nature of it suggests that there’s a command &
> control structure in place that we thought we
> had damaged or destroyed.
Hrrm, just because the perpetrators are calling themselves “Al Qaeda” doesn’t mean they have much to do with the “Al Qaeda” we’re inconveniencing in Afghanistan. I agree that the existance of a C&C structure that can pull this off is news, and not good news either. That doesn’t mean that our activities in Afghanistan are for naught; heck no! We may not know if “Al Qaeda”‘s activity is much less than if we did nothing, but it seems likely.

Guy – your cavalier response to this absolutely floors me. It did not occur to me to react to a terrorist attack based solely on how it inconveniences my own life. In any case, I guess I’m glad you can sleep at night…

Re: NPR & buzzwords – I don’t listen to NPR (or much radio at all, for that matter), so I don’t know what they said. I do work in midtown Manhattan, and I can tell you that changes to threat levels actually are visible here. When the threat level rises, there are national guardsmen posted at the train stations, more police on the street, and additional security at major office buildings (e.g., security badges checked outside the building, as opposed to allowing people to approach the reception desk in the lobby). These things would mean a lot more to people who work in the security/protection industry than they do to the rest of us. Once you realize that, then people who think it’s all a big joke just look like idiots…

As for actual news, my colleagues in London are telling us there are 2 dead (in London, not at my employer), thousands injured, relative calm among the people, the entire Underground is shut down (as a security measure, not due to damage) and security is, of course, heightened. People are working out how to get home, and how/if to go to work in the morning. Business Continuity plans kicked in and seem to be working properly.

Two other thoughts:
1) The biggest aspect of this news (in my opinion) is that Al Qaeda is still capable of pulling something like this off. We’ll know more about how elaborate a plot it was, but the coordinated nature of it suggests that there’s a command & control structure in place that we thought we had damaged or destroyed.

2) The events of the last two days were an excellent example of how news delivery has changed in our world. When I woke up this morning, the TV was talking about the attacks and the Internet was filled with photographs, on-the-scene reporting & blogging. At the train station, an hour later, I saw the front page of the New York Times, which had a large picture of Londoners celebrating in the street because they were just awarded the 2012 Olympics. Tomorrow’s newspaper accounts will be more accurate & thoughtful than the talk-as-we-go nature of the TV & internet news today, but someone who relies on the papers for their news thinks that everyone in London is in a good mood today.

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