Comments on: The Old Media Toilers Help Themselves to a Heaping Slice of Schadenfreude Pie http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/ DEVISING A SYSTEM FOR REMEMBERING EVERYTHING Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:23:22 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: djhorserider http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87863 djhorserider Fri, 04 May 2007 08:00:48 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87863 Hi bros, very, very good. Nothing to be concerned about. - http://www.allsteroidsworld.com I just got an order of sust 250 and Deca from them. Regards Hi bros,

very, very good. Nothing to be concerned about. – http://www.allsteroidsworld.com
I just got an order of sust 250 and Deca from them.

Regards

]]> By: djhorserider http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87864 djhorserider Fri, 04 May 2007 08:00:48 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87864 Hi bros, very, very good. Nothing to be concerned about. - http://www.allsteroidsworld.com I just got an order of sust 250 and Deca from them. Regards Hi bros,

very, very good. Nothing to be concerned about. – http://www.allsteroidsworld.com
I just got an order of sust 250 and Deca from them.

Regards

]]> By: Smurf http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87862 Smurf Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:39:19 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87862 Random House sent me a check to NOT write a book. Random House sent me a check to NOT write a book.

]]> By: Castiron http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87861 Castiron Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:48:44 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87861 Given that it's 93% of ISBNs rather than books, I can absolutely buy the statistic. At the university press where I work, it's not uncommon for the hardcover of a split run to sell at most 300 copies (because we don't <em>print</em> more than 300, since they're intended for library sales). The <em>book</em> sells more than a thousand copies (we hope!), mostly in paperback, but if you look at it by ISBN, quite a lot of our ISBNs don't break the 1000-copies mark. Given that it’s 93% of ISBNs rather than books, I can absolutely buy the statistic. At the university press where I work, it’s not uncommon for the hardcover of a split run to sell at most 300 copies (because we don’t print more than 300, since they’re intended for library sales). The book sells more than a thousand copies (we hope!), mostly in paperback, but if you look at it by ISBN, quite a lot of our ISBNs don’t break the 1000-copies mark.

]]> By: SueAnne Merrill http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87859 SueAnne Merrill Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:34:21 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87859 I chased down that stat, because I was having trouble wrapping my head around it. One of the presentations was on the state of the overall book market, and had this factoid: 93% of all ISBN's sold fewer than 1,000 units and accounted for 13% of all sales. knowing that small press, university press, self-published, and other very vertical market publications are included here makes this number easier to take I chased down that stat, because I was having trouble wrapping my head around it.

One of the presentations was on the state of the overall book market, and had this factoid: 93% of all ISBN’s sold fewer than 1,000 units and accounted for 13% of all sales.

knowing that small press, university press, self-published, and other very vertical market publications are included here makes this number easier to take

]]> By: SueAnne Merrill http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87860 SueAnne Merrill Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:34:21 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87860 I chased down that stat, because I was having trouble wrapping my head around it. One of the presentations was on the state of the overall book market, and had this factoid: 93% of all ISBN's sold fewer than 1,000 units and accounted for 13% of all sales. knowing that small press, university press, self-published, and other very vertical market publications are included here makes this number easier to take I chased down that stat, because I was having trouble wrapping my head around it.

One of the presentations was on the state of the overall book market, and had this factoid: 93% of all ISBN’s sold fewer than 1,000 units and accounted for 13% of all sales.

knowing that small press, university press, self-published, and other very vertical market publications are included here makes this number easier to take

]]> By: John Scalzi http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87858 John Scalzi Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:26:38 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87858 Yes, I know a little about putting books online. Yes, I know a little about putting books online.

]]> By: Alex http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87857 Alex Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:11:45 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87857 Don't forget David Wellington - Author of Monster Nation and Monster Island. Both books were serialized on blogs online, and both are doing well in the marketplace. He's also got 4 more books under contract. Don’t forget David Wellington – Author of Monster Nation and Monster Island. Both books were serialized on blogs online, and both are doing well in the marketplace. He’s also got 4 more books under contract.

]]> By: James Aach http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87856 James Aach Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:10:45 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87856 One thing the Boston Herald article on bloggers didn't mention - though Mr. Ford's commentary above alludes to it, was the "blook", -- posting an entire book on a blog. This is a way to demonstrate both writing quality and marketability. Especially in fiction, there aren't that many gatekeepers one can interest in a book, and evidence (and their own blogs) suggest they tend to focus most on what interests them. (I suspect their recognition of that was one reason they were hooking onto popular blogs - though that doesn't explain the money they were tossing about) Posting a blook may not ultimately result in mainstream publication, but it can bring some satisfaction to the writer, and some interesting reading to those who find it. Mine has worked out quite well. ("Rad Decision" is a thriller about nuclear power, based on my many years in the atomic biz. http://RadDecision.blogspot.com ) One thing the Boston Herald article on bloggers didn’t mention – though Mr. Ford’s commentary above alludes to it, was the “blook”, — posting an entire book on a blog. This is a way to demonstrate both writing quality and marketability. Especially in fiction, there aren’t that many gatekeepers one can interest in a book, and evidence (and their own blogs) suggest they tend to focus most on what interests them. (I suspect their recognition of that was one reason they were hooking onto popular blogs – though that doesn’t explain the money they were tossing about)

Posting a blook may not ultimately result in mainstream publication, but it can bring some satisfaction to the writer, and some interesting reading to those who find it. Mine has worked out quite well. (“Rad Decision” is a thriller about nuclear power, based on my many years in the atomic biz. http://RadDecision.blogspot.com )

]]> By: cherie priest http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87854 cherie priest Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:04:14 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/25/the-old-media-toilers-help-themselves-to-a-heaping-slice-of-schadenfreude-pie/#comment-87854 Thanks for the plug - and as stated above, yes, the annoying thing about articles like that one is that it makes it look like big advances are handed out like Bazooka gum at Halloween. The silly implication is that since everybody gets these big advances, the bloggers are a special kind of lame since they aren't earning theirs out. I don't know. There's just so much ... *wrong* with that article. Thanks for the plug – and as stated above, yes, the annoying thing about articles like that one is that it makes it look like big advances are handed out like Bazooka gum at Halloween. The silly implication is that since everybody gets these big advances, the bloggers are a special kind of lame since they aren’t earning theirs out.

I don’t know. There’s just so much … *wrong* with that article.

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