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	<title>Comments on: A Month of Writers, Day Seven: Brandon Sanderson</title>
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		<title>By: Margarete Kell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margarete Kell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with the contents of Mr. Sanderson&#039;s essay, I find the wording timid and apologetic. As a German I&#039;m always taken aback by the appeasement toward Christian Fundamentalists, who are trying to turn the clocks backwards. Don&#039;t make excuses for them, they are wrong - shout it out loud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with the contents of Mr. Sanderson&#8217;s essay, I find the wording timid and apologetic. As a German I&#8217;m always taken aback by the appeasement toward Christian Fundamentalists, who are trying to turn the clocks backwards. Don&#8217;t make excuses for them, they are wrong &#8211; shout it out loud!</p>
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		<title>By: Rembrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rembrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a side note to Mr Scalzi. I just read your Site Disclaimer and Comment Policy. It is a thing of beauty. This is my soap box. If you don&#039;t like it there is plenty of room on the net for you to build your own. Hehe. The only part I don&#039;t like is that you can edit a post. I would rather be deleted then edited without consent or at least a note that the post had be changed from the original neurotic rambling. Ah well it is your bat and ball and if I don&#039;t like the call I can get my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a side note to Mr Scalzi. I just read your Site Disclaimer and Comment Policy. It is a thing of beauty. This is my soap box. If you don&#8217;t like it there is plenty of room on the net for you to build your own. Hehe. The only part I don&#8217;t like is that you can edit a post. I would rather be deleted then edited without consent or at least a note that the post had be changed from the original neurotic rambling. Ah well it is your bat and ball and if I don&#8217;t like the call I can get my own.</p>
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		<title>By: Rembrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rembrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put Mr Sanderson. If a persons faith is so weak that a movie or book can shake it maybe they need to find something stronger to put their faith in. I am torn on the effectiveness of this sort of campaign. It seems to me that anyone who would read and follow this sort of advice is already an unthinking religious fanatic. Blindly allowing others to do all their hard thinking for them. Lets face it, having a fundamental belief attacked can be painful. It is much easier to stick with church authorized reading and entertainment that reinforces what you already believe. There is a line out there between telling people of the same faith that a book or movie should be avoided and telling the local library what they can put on thier shelves. I have no problem with them telling each other what they should and shouldn&#039;t read. The problem starts when they try to control what books I can and can not read. I would never consider going to a Christian Science reading room and telling them they have to carry this or that book and I would also never tell them they can&#039;t carry another. It is privately funded and they have paid for the right to to pick their own books. The local library on the other hand is funded by my tax dollars too and it is up to me to decide which books I want to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put Mr Sanderson. If a persons faith is so weak that a movie or book can shake it maybe they need to find something stronger to put their faith in. I am torn on the effectiveness of this sort of campaign. It seems to me that anyone who would read and follow this sort of advice is already an unthinking religious fanatic. Blindly allowing others to do all their hard thinking for them. Lets face it, having a fundamental belief attacked can be painful. It is much easier to stick with church authorized reading and entertainment that reinforces what you already believe. There is a line out there between telling people of the same faith that a book or movie should be avoided and telling the local library what they can put on thier shelves. I have no problem with them telling each other what they should and shouldn&#8217;t read. The problem starts when they try to control what books I can and can not read. I would never consider going to a Christian Science reading room and telling them they have to carry this or that book and I would also never tell them they can&#8217;t carry another. It is privately funded and they have paid for the right to to pick their own books. The local library on the other hand is funded by my tax dollars too and it is up to me to decide which books I want to read.</p>
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		<title>By: jennie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TallDave, while I agree that an e-mail telling people not to go see a movie or read a book is not the same thing as government or institutional censorship of a book, movie, or other expression of ideas and thoughts, I think you might be overlooking some of the significance of letters like these (or maybe you&#039;re not, and I&#039;m just more worried about this than you are).

There&#039;s a lot of political anti-intellectualism going around. Faith-based teaching and politics are feeding the public a lot of policies and ideas that don&#039;t stand up to rigorous questioning (this probably isn&#039;t the place to enumerate them). The only way faith-based politics work is for enough people not to question things.

I think campaigns like the anti-Pullman one draw from this ideology, and feed into it.

The people who write these e-mails often start campaigns to have books removed from library shelves. Once the book is removed from library shelves, that is, indeed, institutional censorship: it&#039;s contents are no longer available to anyone else who wants to read the book, or who might happen on the book and benefit from it.

Furthermore, what I think Brandon is trying to point out is that while people might not want to read a book that calls elements of their faith into question, they &lt;i&gt;and their faith&lt;/i&gt; might benefit from reading such a book, not because they&#039;ll come around to the author&#039;s way of thinking, but because they may better understand people around them, who have more in common with the author than they do.

Outside of school, it&#039;s rare for people to be forced to read a given book, and I don&#039;t think that Brandon was suggesting that anyone be compelled to read Pullman&#039;s books, or tricked into doing so. What he seems to be warning against is the way the e-mails and letters (and even the Facebook group) simply tell people that the Pullman&#039;s book (and the movie) are bad, that it celebrates atheism, and that Pullman is trying to convert their children. The people writing these e-mails don&#039;t seem interested in engaging with the ideas. They simply call on their authority, and their readers&#039; insecurities, to promote the notion that faith and questioning are somehow opposed to each other. They feed into the false opposition of faith and intellectualism.

I think this is a dangerous trend, myself, and one that should be questioned. I think it has to be questioned by people of faith, because, well, in the eyes of most Christians, an athiest like me doesn&#039;t hold much authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TallDave, while I agree that an e-mail telling people not to go see a movie or read a book is not the same thing as government or institutional censorship of a book, movie, or other expression of ideas and thoughts, I think you might be overlooking some of the significance of letters like these (or maybe you&#8217;re not, and I&#8217;m just more worried about this than you are).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of political anti-intellectualism going around. Faith-based teaching and politics are feeding the public a lot of policies and ideas that don&#8217;t stand up to rigorous questioning (this probably isn&#8217;t the place to enumerate them). The only way faith-based politics work is for enough people not to question things.</p>
<p>I think campaigns like the anti-Pullman one draw from this ideology, and feed into it.</p>
<p>The people who write these e-mails often start campaigns to have books removed from library shelves. Once the book is removed from library shelves, that is, indeed, institutional censorship: it&#8217;s contents are no longer available to anyone else who wants to read the book, or who might happen on the book and benefit from it.</p>
<p>Furthermore, what I think Brandon is trying to point out is that while people might not want to read a book that calls elements of their faith into question, they <i>and their faith</i> might benefit from reading such a book, not because they&#8217;ll come around to the author&#8217;s way of thinking, but because they may better understand people around them, who have more in common with the author than they do.</p>
<p>Outside of school, it&#8217;s rare for people to be forced to read a given book, and I don&#8217;t think that Brandon was suggesting that anyone be compelled to read Pullman&#8217;s books, or tricked into doing so. What he seems to be warning against is the way the e-mails and letters (and even the Facebook group) simply tell people that the Pullman&#8217;s book (and the movie) are bad, that it celebrates atheism, and that Pullman is trying to convert their children. The people writing these e-mails don&#8217;t seem interested in engaging with the ideas. They simply call on their authority, and their readers&#8217; insecurities, to promote the notion that faith and questioning are somehow opposed to each other. They feed into the false opposition of faith and intellectualism.</p>
<p>I think this is a dangerous trend, myself, and one that should be questioned. I think it has to be questioned by people of faith, because, well, in the eyes of most Christians, an athiest like me doesn&#8217;t hold much authority.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hitchens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hitchens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pshaw!  You want anti-religious?  OK, they&#039;re not in the sci-fi or fantasy genre, more like mainstream historical fiction, but they can out anti-religous anyone -- Bernard Cornwell&#039;s Arthurian trilogy (The Winter King et. al.) and Saxon stories (The Last Kingdom &amp; three others so far).  Both series take place in the Dark Ages, Christianity&#039;s formative centuries, and both tear it a new one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pshaw!  You want anti-religious?  OK, they&#8217;re not in the sci-fi or fantasy genre, more like mainstream historical fiction, but they can out anti-religous anyone &#8212; Bernard Cornwell&#8217;s Arthurian trilogy (The Winter King et. al.) and Saxon stories (The Last Kingdom &amp; three others so far).  Both series take place in the Dark Ages, Christianity&#8217;s formative centuries, and both tear it a new one.</p>
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		<title>By: TallDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>TallDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a deist, I have little sympathy for religious dogma, but I have to disagree with the piece; suppression/censorship of ideas via government force is a serious issue that every reasonable freedom-loving person should oppose, but there is nothing wrong with circulating an email telling people not to see something you don&#039;t like or believe has a harmful message.

If you want to see real censorship, visit N Korea or Iran or Cuba and try passing out Orwell and Ayn Rand on the street.  Assuming they don&#039;t mistake &quot;1984&quot; for an instruction manual, you will be, ahem, discouraged.

Then the author says &quot;people should make their own decisions on this.&quot;  Well, some people prefer not to see anti-Christian movies, and the email helps them make that decision.  I don&#039;t care myself, but the email is in fact helping better inform their choice, not making them ignorant.

Finally, telling people to ignore something is perfectly valid.  If someone made a pro-KKK movie or one about how the Jews really deserved the Holocaust, would we have to refrain from telling people not to see it in order to prove we aren&#039;t &quot;anti-intellectual&quot;  or &quot;fostering ignorance?&quot;  Do we need to &quot;promote learning&quot; about those viewpoints? Those are extreme examples, but some people feel that strongly about religion -- and that&#039;s their right.  As long as they aren&#039;t infringing on my rights I don&#039;t care.

I haven&#039;t seen the movie, but it looks fun.  I&#039;ll probably see it when it gets to DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a deist, I have little sympathy for religious dogma, but I have to disagree with the piece; suppression/censorship of ideas via government force is a serious issue that every reasonable freedom-loving person should oppose, but there is nothing wrong with circulating an email telling people not to see something you don&#8217;t like or believe has a harmful message.</p>
<p>If you want to see real censorship, visit N Korea or Iran or Cuba and try passing out Orwell and Ayn Rand on the street.  Assuming they don&#8217;t mistake &#8220;1984&#8243; for an instruction manual, you will be, ahem, discouraged.</p>
<p>Then the author says &#8220;people should make their own decisions on this.&#8221;  Well, some people prefer not to see anti-Christian movies, and the email helps them make that decision.  I don&#8217;t care myself, but the email is in fact helping better inform their choice, not making them ignorant.</p>
<p>Finally, telling people to ignore something is perfectly valid.  If someone made a pro-KKK movie or one about how the Jews really deserved the Holocaust, would we have to refrain from telling people not to see it in order to prove we aren&#8217;t &#8220;anti-intellectual&#8221;  or &#8220;fostering ignorance?&#8221;  Do we need to &#8220;promote learning&#8221; about those viewpoints? Those are extreme examples, but some people feel that strongly about religion &#8212; and that&#8217;s their right.  As long as they aren&#8217;t infringing on my rights I don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the movie, but it looks fun.  I&#8217;ll probably see it when it gets to DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ the Barbarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ the Barbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats, Mr. Sanderson, for being tapped to finish &quot;A Memory of Light.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats, Mr. Sanderson, for being tapped to finish &#8220;A Memory of Light.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: K.S.R. Kingworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.S.R. Kingworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked Brandon Sanderson&#039;s comments so much, I posted them on my own blog.  (Not that you&#039;ll need to go there, since you just read Sanderson&#039;s comments here, but to reference:  http://ksrkingworth.com)

My daughter and I just got back from watching The Golden Compass.  We talked more on the drive home than we have in a long time.  What Pullman touches on is a great springboard for discussion.

Great blog, John!  I&#039;d like to invite you to take a look at the seven things I learned from Orson Scott Card.  He&#039;s writing a blurb on the back of my YA fantasy novel, &lt;b&gt;Secret Speakers&lt;/b&gt;.  http://golibro.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked Brandon Sanderson&#8217;s comments so much, I posted them on my own blog.  (Not that you&#8217;ll need to go there, since you just read Sanderson&#8217;s comments here, but to reference:  <a href="http://ksrkingworth.com)" rel="nofollow">http://ksrkingworth.com)</a></p>
<p>My daughter and I just got back from watching The Golden Compass.  We talked more on the drive home than we have in a long time.  What Pullman touches on is a great springboard for discussion.</p>
<p>Great blog, John!  I&#8217;d like to invite you to take a look at the seven things I learned from Orson Scott Card.  He&#8217;s writing a blurb on the back of my YA fantasy novel, <b>Secret Speakers</b>.  <a href="http://golibro.com" rel="nofollow">http://golibro.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: PixelFish</title>
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		<dc:creator>PixelFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent news, Peter.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Ahlstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Ahlstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone who hasn&#039;t heard today&#039;s big news: Brandon has been chosen to finish A MEMORY OF LIGHT. http://www.dragonmount.com/News/?p=326</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone who hasn&#8217;t heard today&#8217;s big news: Brandon has been chosen to finish A MEMORY OF LIGHT. <a href="http://www.dragonmount.com/News/?p=326" rel="nofollow">http://www.dragonmount.com/News/?p=326</a></p>
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