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		<title>By: Astro1derboy</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astro1derboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe the type of art is designed for the sellers...the stereo-typical types who probably wouldn&#039;t read it themselves but are responsible for getting it to the shelves.

I enjoy great cover art and there are some fantastic cover artists out there.  Martiniere is great, so is Nicolas Bouvier (Sparth) www.sparth.com and David Levy (Vyle) www.vyle-art.com.  There are more...

It would be nice to see an alternate version release with each; one that the sellers need to see and one that the fans would much more enjoy.  (Not that the sellers version would be bad, just different I&#039;m sure.)

I am a fan of great stories...and great scifi/fantasy art.  I believe you can tell an entire book&#039;s worth of text with just one incredible cover art piece.

I do like the idea of a poster-release with the book too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the type of art is designed for the sellers&#8230;the stereo-typical types who probably wouldn&#8217;t read it themselves but are responsible for getting it to the shelves.</p>
<p>I enjoy great cover art and there are some fantastic cover artists out there.  Martiniere is great, so is Nicolas Bouvier (Sparth) <a href="http://www.sparth.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sparth.com</a> and David Levy (Vyle) <a href="http://www.vyle-art.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vyle-art.com</a>.  There are more&#8230;</p>
<p>It would be nice to see an alternate version release with each; one that the sellers need to see and one that the fans would much more enjoy.  (Not that the sellers version would be bad, just different I&#8217;m sure.)</p>
<p>I am a fan of great stories&#8230;and great scifi/fantasy art.  I believe you can tell an entire book&#8217;s worth of text with just one incredible cover art piece.</p>
<p>I do like the idea of a poster-release with the book too.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Durbin</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B. Durbin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an artist myself, cover art has a huge influence on me. It may not make or keep me from purchasing a book, but it does affect my immediate reaction to the book. For instance, there is a Michael Stackpole book that has a cover that might best be described as &quot;bad romance&quot;— we read the book, but we use a portable cover to put over it.

I will say, though, that certain artists will get the nod from me more often than not. I will buy just about anything with a Michael Whelan cover because, for some reason, the publishers who use him have taste that is similar to mine. But Darrell K. Sweet is a total toss-up, which is hardly surprising as the man churns out covers like mad.

From a sheer artistic standpoint, I like Whelan, Yvonne Gilbert, John Jude Palencar, and Jody Lee. Artists such as Stephen Youll are technically good but I&#039;m not too fond of the unrealistic, sometimes gravity-defying outfits that never show wear.* And any time I see cover art that I like I&#039;ll pick up the book and check to see who the artist is... and sure, I&#039;ll read the back.

If the cover art is horrible, I&#039;ll check the publisher. Baen gets a lot of leeway. :D

*For the past three years I have been working with high school photography. It takes approximately twenty minutes in a car for a modern, high-quality outfit to show wrinkles and/or spots. Somehow, I&#039;m skeptical that fighting, say, a dragon is going to be &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; hard on clothes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an artist myself, cover art has a huge influence on me. It may not make or keep me from purchasing a book, but it does affect my immediate reaction to the book. For instance, there is a Michael Stackpole book that has a cover that might best be described as &#8220;bad romance&#8221;— we read the book, but we use a portable cover to put over it.</p>
<p>I will say, though, that certain artists will get the nod from me more often than not. I will buy just about anything with a Michael Whelan cover because, for some reason, the publishers who use him have taste that is similar to mine. But Darrell K. Sweet is a total toss-up, which is hardly surprising as the man churns out covers like mad.</p>
<p>From a sheer artistic standpoint, I like Whelan, Yvonne Gilbert, John Jude Palencar, and Jody Lee. Artists such as Stephen Youll are technically good but I&#8217;m not too fond of the unrealistic, sometimes gravity-defying outfits that never show wear.* And any time I see cover art that I like I&#8217;ll pick up the book and check to see who the artist is&#8230; and sure, I&#8217;ll read the back.</p>
<p>If the cover art is horrible, I&#8217;ll check the publisher. Baen gets a lot of leeway. :D</p>
<p>*For the past three years I have been working with high school photography. It takes approximately twenty minutes in a car for a modern, high-quality outfit to show wrinkles and/or spots. Somehow, I&#8217;m skeptical that fighting, say, a dragon is going to be <i>less</i> hard on clothes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin R</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In a book series there’s a third dimension as well, which is maintaining a consistency in feel across a series. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you for this. I love having series of books on the shelf that all match, and it annoys me probably more than it should when this does not happen. The change in covers for &lt;i&gt;A Song of Ice and Fire&lt;/i&gt; upon the release of the fourth book pissed me off, since nothing is going to match my copies of the first three now.

I&#039;m not sure the John Harris spaceships match the story especially well, but they look ok.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In a book series there’s a third dimension as well, which is maintaining a consistency in feel across a series. </p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you for this. I love having series of books on the shelf that all match, and it annoys me probably more than it should when this does not happen. The change in covers for <i>A Song of Ice and Fire</i> upon the release of the fourth book pissed me off, since nothing is going to match my copies of the first three now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure the John Harris spaceships match the story especially well, but they look ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Randomscrub</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21803</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the OMW cover from the hardcover release.  Why did it change for the paperback?  What drives these changes between editions from the marketing perspective?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the OMW cover from the hardcover release.  Why did it change for the paperback?  What drives these changes between editions from the marketing perspective?</p>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21800</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless it is an author who I&#039;ve read before, and like, I always buy a book because of its cover. If the cover doesn&#039;t call attention to the book, I don&#039;t &quot;see&quot; the book and therefore don&#039;t buy it. The only exception is when someone specifically recommends a book to me personally. And like Carl V. and hugh57, a Martiniere cover is instantly recognizable, and &quot;I never see a Martiniere cover without wanting to take it home.&quot; So I do take it home. Another artist I feel exactly like Martiniere about is John Picacio - in fact, I just received his newest released cover, &quot;Critical Viewpoints,&quot; on 2-day delivery from Amazon.

Covers sell books!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless it is an author who I&#8217;ve read before, and like, I always buy a book because of its cover. If the cover doesn&#8217;t call attention to the book, I don&#8217;t &#8220;see&#8221; the book and therefore don&#8217;t buy it. The only exception is when someone specifically recommends a book to me personally. And like Carl V. and hugh57, a Martiniere cover is instantly recognizable, and &#8220;I never see a Martiniere cover without wanting to take it home.&#8221; So I do take it home. Another artist I feel exactly like Martiniere about is John Picacio &#8211; in fact, I just received his newest released cover, &#8220;Critical Viewpoints,&#8221; on 2-day delivery from Amazon.</p>
<p>Covers sell books!</p>
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		<title>By: hugh57</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21802</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl V @35: &lt;em&gt;I also think Martiniere is one of the premiere cover illustrators working today. I never see a Martiniere cover without wanting to take it home. And more often than not I do.&lt;/em&gt;

Ditto to that. Though I don&#039;t usually buy books based &lt;em&gt;solely&lt;/em&gt; on the cover (I usually feel the need to at least read the DJ flap copy to close the deal), it is often a strong selling point, particularly with authors I haven&#039;t read.

I bought Jay Lake&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Mainspring&lt;/em&gt; largely for the Martiniere cover -- I hadn&#039;t read anything by Jay Lake before, and probably wouldn&#039;t have bought it otherwise. While I liked Jay&#039;s writing style well enough,  I really don&#039;t think that the &quot;Clockpunk&quot; subgenre is my cup of tea. That said, I&#039;ll likely buy &lt;em&gt;Escapement&lt;/em&gt; (the sequel to &lt;em&gt;Mainspring&lt;/em&gt;) when it comes out, because of the Martiniere cover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl V @35: <em>I also think Martiniere is one of the premiere cover illustrators working today. I never see a Martiniere cover without wanting to take it home. And more often than not I do.</em></p>
<p>Ditto to that. Though I don&#8217;t usually buy books based <em>solely</em> on the cover (I usually feel the need to at least read the DJ flap copy to close the deal), it is often a strong selling point, particularly with authors I haven&#8217;t read.</p>
<p>I bought Jay Lake&#8217;s <em>Mainspring</em> largely for the Martiniere cover &#8212; I hadn&#8217;t read anything by Jay Lake before, and probably wouldn&#8217;t have bought it otherwise. While I liked Jay&#8217;s writing style well enough,  I really don&#8217;t think that the &#8220;Clockpunk&#8221; subgenre is my cup of tea. That said, I&#8217;ll likely buy <em>Escapement</em> (the sequel to <em>Mainspring</em>) when it comes out, because of the Martiniere cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V.</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Would people buy Zoe’s Tale or Escapement without a cover consistent to their series? I like to think they would,&quot;

Yes, but I would bitch and moan the whole time.  It was the John Harris cover, a favorite, that caused me to pick up a book by the then unknown-by-me author John Scalzi and fall in love with the series.  When I saw the release for the cover image for Zoe&#039;s Tale I got a HUGE smile on my face.  More Harris!!!

&quot;As everyone already stated here I also do not buy books based on covers&quot;  Allow me to be one then who does exactly the opposite.  Unless I know an author and am buying their book based on the fact that I liked their previous offering(s) I buy books all the time based solely on cover art.  I have always been a fan of book cover illustration and I could type a looooong list of authors who I may not have discovered, or certainly wouldn&#039;t have until much later, if the cover art of the book had not reeled me in and said &quot;take me home&quot;.

I realize each person has their own tastes in cover art and that is good.  For my money the Harris covers on your books are far and away the best and also some of Harris&#039; best work.  Again, that is my opinion.  I also think Martiniere is one of the premiere cover illustrators working today.  I never see a Martiniere cover without wanting to take it home.  And more often than not I do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would people buy Zoe’s Tale or Escapement without a cover consistent to their series? I like to think they would,&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but I would bitch and moan the whole time.  It was the John Harris cover, a favorite, that caused me to pick up a book by the then unknown-by-me author John Scalzi and fall in love with the series.  When I saw the release for the cover image for Zoe&#8217;s Tale I got a HUGE smile on my face.  More Harris!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;As everyone already stated here I also do not buy books based on covers&#8221;  Allow me to be one then who does exactly the opposite.  Unless I know an author and am buying their book based on the fact that I liked their previous offering(s) I buy books all the time based solely on cover art.  I have always been a fan of book cover illustration and I could type a looooong list of authors who I may not have discovered, or certainly wouldn&#8217;t have until much later, if the cover art of the book had not reeled me in and said &#8220;take me home&#8221;.</p>
<p>I realize each person has their own tastes in cover art and that is good.  For my money the Harris covers on your books are far and away the best and also some of Harris&#8217; best work.  Again, that is my opinion.  I also think Martiniere is one of the premiere cover illustrators working today.  I never see a Martiniere cover without wanting to take it home.  And more often than not I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Ka Hosting</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Ka Hosting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the escapement cover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the escapement cover.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21798</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For my nickel, the only one of those covers you posted above that looks at all interesting to me is the Harry Harrison one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my nickel, the only one of those covers you posted above that looks at all interesting to me is the Harry Harrison one.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/03/26/cover-this/#comment-21797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fire whoever signed off on that gumball cover on OMW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fire whoever signed off on that gumball cover on OMW.</p>
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