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		<title>By: David J. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David J. Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sure called that one.]]></description>
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		<title>By: gaetano</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a republican and I like to throw the shit around once in a while too,so here goes.First of all,If you think that Obamma or mccain give a shit wether they win or not you must still believe  in the easter bunny.These guys are in this thing for MONEY,and thats it. Wether they win or not both of them have already stolen more of their campain money then all of us idiots ever made, on this stupid internet together.Now when one of them wins,he win get to steal more. Now for some more shit.This election will be different from any election you ever voted for for the simple reason which is well known but is well hidden and tried to put aside.&quot;RACE&quot; oh I know that right now you saying that I am a racist son of a bitch, but I assure you that I`m not.This factor is going to be in play when the voting starts.A lot of the blue states which have been blue for years and years will all of a sudden become red and you will wonder ,what the hell happened.Sad to say but true.and that is no shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a republican and I like to throw the shit around once in a while too,so here goes.First of all,If you think that Obamma or mccain give a shit wether they win or not you must still believe  in the easter bunny.These guys are in this thing for MONEY,and thats it. Wether they win or not both of them have already stolen more of their campain money then all of us idiots ever made, on this stupid internet together.Now when one of them wins,he win get to steal more. Now for some more shit.This election will be different from any election you ever voted for for the simple reason which is well known but is well hidden and tried to put aside.&#8221;RACE&#8221; oh I know that right now you saying that I am a racist son of a bitch, but I assure you that I`m not.This factor is going to be in play when the voting starts.A lot of the blue states which have been blue for years and years will all of a sudden become red and you will wonder ,what the hell happened.Sad to say but true.and that is no shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Vos Post]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Joh Scalzi, GOH, would you mind telling the Loscon program chair, if asked, that you have no objection to me, a professional scientist and science fiction author, being on some panel or other? If so, see you in November. After doing over 25 panels for them, and my Physics professor SFWA member wife doing several, I have not been asked to for 15 years or so, and hate having to be only in the audience.

Second, is it okay if I repost this from PZ Myers&#039; blog? It amplifies my comment here, #210.

Posted by: Jonathan Vos Post &#124; September 13, 2008 1:19 PM

I spent my first 16 years in New York City. To McCain and Palin, that is Sodom, and Washington DC is Gomorrah. Although ever since McCain cheated on his wife with the stripper known as &quot;The Flame of Florida&quot; he has no trouble preaching &quot;family values&quot; while living in one of his 7 houses nearest to Gomorrah.

Now I live in a town within 5% of the population of Galveston, albet we have earthquakes, forest fires, and copycat crimes from the Rodney King riots, instead of hurricanes.

Yesterday afternoon at the closest high school to my home, after I&#039;d taught Homeroom, Chemistry, Biology, Anatomy &amp; Physiology, there was an interesting conversation I overheard between two staff employees. One was on the signs that we are Last Times or End Times. The other was on how Angels are made of Light, but Satan is made of Fire. I like both of these staffers. One is sincere about family values, and may quit to spend more time with his 4 children, including the 1-month-old. The other can read Arabic and tell me things about Abrahamic religion that I did not know, while happily stocking the school library with donated books including a very fine Science Fiction section.

See what Fred Clark says on his blog about the single keyword in Sarah Palin&#039;s nonanswer to dancing around her not knowing the definition of &quot;Bush Doctrine&quot; -- the keyword is &quot;worldview.&quot; That codes for the far, far right evangelical focus on the war between churchgoing armies of God and the Satanic Liberal Pointy-headed-professorial minions of the Jew- and communist-dominated Media, against whom Sarah Palin declared war in her acceptance speech.

Small-town values? I like David Letterman&#039;s take on Wasilla. &quot;A town so small it only has one store: Bed, Bath, and Waaaaay Beyond. Pick up the book &#039;Fun Things to do in Wasilla.&#039; It has one entry: &#039;you&#039;re doing it.&#039;&quot;

My original comment: if you put lipstick on a dinosaur, Noah still won&#039;t let it on the Ark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Joh Scalzi, GOH, would you mind telling the Loscon program chair, if asked, that you have no objection to me, a professional scientist and science fiction author, being on some panel or other? If so, see you in November. After doing over 25 panels for them, and my Physics professor SFWA member wife doing several, I have not been asked to for 15 years or so, and hate having to be only in the audience.</p>
<p>Second, is it okay if I repost this from PZ Myers&#8217; blog? It amplifies my comment here, #210.</p>
<p>Posted by: Jonathan Vos Post | September 13, 2008 1:19 PM</p>
<p>I spent my first 16 years in New York City. To McCain and Palin, that is Sodom, and Washington DC is Gomorrah. Although ever since McCain cheated on his wife with the stripper known as &#8220;The Flame of Florida&#8221; he has no trouble preaching &#8220;family values&#8221; while living in one of his 7 houses nearest to Gomorrah.</p>
<p>Now I live in a town within 5% of the population of Galveston, albet we have earthquakes, forest fires, and copycat crimes from the Rodney King riots, instead of hurricanes.</p>
<p>Yesterday afternoon at the closest high school to my home, after I&#8217;d taught Homeroom, Chemistry, Biology, Anatomy &amp; Physiology, there was an interesting conversation I overheard between two staff employees. One was on the signs that we are Last Times or End Times. The other was on how Angels are made of Light, but Satan is made of Fire. I like both of these staffers. One is sincere about family values, and may quit to spend more time with his 4 children, including the 1-month-old. The other can read Arabic and tell me things about Abrahamic religion that I did not know, while happily stocking the school library with donated books including a very fine Science Fiction section.</p>
<p>See what Fred Clark says on his blog about the single keyword in Sarah Palin&#8217;s nonanswer to dancing around her not knowing the definition of &#8220;Bush Doctrine&#8221; &#8212; the keyword is &#8220;worldview.&#8221; That codes for the far, far right evangelical focus on the war between churchgoing armies of God and the Satanic Liberal Pointy-headed-professorial minions of the Jew- and communist-dominated Media, against whom Sarah Palin declared war in her acceptance speech.</p>
<p>Small-town values? I like David Letterman&#8217;s take on Wasilla. &#8220;A town so small it only has one store: Bed, Bath, and Waaaaay Beyond. Pick up the book &#8216;Fun Things to do in Wasilla.&#8217; It has one entry: &#8216;you&#8217;re doing it.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>My original comment: if you put lipstick on a dinosaur, Noah still won&#8217;t let it on the Ark.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Vos Post]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 words:

Bush Doctrine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 words:</p>
<p>Bush Doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: StevieB</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@202 - mythago, that&#039;s probably fair, but look at the Federalist Papers for example.  There&#039;s a lot of political philosophy there, but did &quot;Publius&quot; (the irony that 2/3 of the trio could barely talk to each other kills me) try to convince folks to adopt the US Constitution by &quot;dirty tricks.&quot;  They tried to educate and persuade...what a novel idea!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@202 &#8211; mythago, that&#8217;s probably fair, but look at the Federalist Papers for example.  There&#8217;s a lot of political philosophy there, but did &#8220;Publius&#8221; (the irony that 2/3 of the trio could barely talk to each other kills me) try to convince folks to adopt the US Constitution by &#8220;dirty tricks.&#8221;  They tried to educate and persuade&#8230;what a novel idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Corby Kennard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corby Kennard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank, you are intentionally misrepresenting that comment.

He didn&#039;t mention Dems or Repubs, he said Kerry and Bush, and lets be honest, Bush looks like a slightly brain-damaged bonobo thinking about flinging his shit.

Wow, he kinda acts that way too.

I&#039;m sure at one time there were perfectly fine Repubs in government. But that time is past. It may one day come again, but first the thugs and morons who have co-opted our system need to be removed, charged with the crimes against humanity they have committed while in office, and jailed or executed as the case may be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, you are intentionally misrepresenting that comment.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t mention Dems or Repubs, he said Kerry and Bush, and lets be honest, Bush looks like a slightly brain-damaged bonobo thinking about flinging his shit.</p>
<p>Wow, he kinda acts that way too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure at one time there were perfectly fine Repubs in government. But that time is past. It may one day come again, but first the thugs and morons who have co-opted our system need to be removed, charged with the crimes against humanity they have committed while in office, and jailed or executed as the case may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice. I came across this entry from a friend&#039;s delicious links, and I&#039;m glad I found it. What an excellent rant!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice. I came across this entry from a friend&#8217;s delicious links, and I&#8217;m glad I found it. What an excellent rant!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect we are victims of two phenomena.  If your old enough to remember when ink jet printers first appeared on the scene, you remember that for a brief time, junk reports had a false air of importance. They looked like they had been typeset, and generally you don&#039;t bother to typeset random collections of words. I think the same thing is happening in the realm of net &quot;journalism&quot;. Any dingbat can rant, and we assume that it deserves attention.

Add to this the fact that before the internet, zelots used to be diluted by the general population. Now it&#039;s easy for self reinforcing communities of parochial views to form.

So we see an outrageous charge, and assume that it has a much broader constituancy than it really does.

So we conclude that &quot;the left&quot; is on a campaign to smear Palin. Or &quot;the right&quot; embodies intollerance.

I personally love the observation that when asked a question an authority will give you an answer, but an expert will say: &quot;it depends&quot;.

&quot;it depends&quot; doesn&#039;t make for good press, or good slogans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect we are victims of two phenomena.  If your old enough to remember when ink jet printers first appeared on the scene, you remember that for a brief time, junk reports had a false air of importance. They looked like they had been typeset, and generally you don&#8217;t bother to typeset random collections of words. I think the same thing is happening in the realm of net &#8220;journalism&#8221;. Any dingbat can rant, and we assume that it deserves attention.</p>
<p>Add to this the fact that before the internet, zelots used to be diluted by the general population. Now it&#8217;s easy for self reinforcing communities of parochial views to form.</p>
<p>So we see an outrageous charge, and assume that it has a much broader constituancy than it really does.</p>
<p>So we conclude that &#8220;the left&#8221; is on a campaign to smear Palin. Or &#8220;the right&#8221; embodies intollerance.</p>
<p>I personally love the observation that when asked a question an authority will give you an answer, but an expert will say: &#8220;it depends&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;it depends&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make for good press, or good slogans.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lain</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama and his enablers deserve the problem of Palin.  The reason everybody is in a panic is because their guy is running on style and charisma and the Repugs just severely diminished his advantage there.

If, on the other hand, the Obama campaign actually stood for something they would have no trouble.   Something like 80% of the country thinks they&#039;re worse off than they were 4 years ago and that the country is headed down the toilet.  The current republican president has something like a 30% approval rating.  The banks are failing.  If a democrat can&#039;t win handily in this context then there is something wrong with the democrat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama and his enablers deserve the problem of Palin.  The reason everybody is in a panic is because their guy is running on style and charisma and the Repugs just severely diminished his advantage there.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, the Obama campaign actually stood for something they would have no trouble.   Something like 80% of the country thinks they&#8217;re worse off than they were 4 years ago and that the country is headed down the toilet.  The current republican president has something like a 30% approval rating.  The banks are failing.  If a democrat can&#8217;t win handily in this context then there is something wrong with the democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Ranapia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CMP@200:  No it wasn&#039;t a &quot;misinterpretation&quot;.  In the report I saw, it was just Governor Jane Swift -- member of the so-called Palin Truth Squad -- telling a big fat stinking lie.  And I use the L-word, because I don&#039;t believe she&#039;s lived her entire life in a convent, free from the taint of spicy idiomatic English.

You know, John, I actually think Obama needs to &quot;lost his shit&quot; just a little bit and start hitting back at blatant lies.  And if Palin apologists bitch about it, hit them where they live: You want to compare her to Margaret Thatcher -- who was tough as nails, twice as sharp and never used her gender as an excuse to dodge an argument -- walk the talk.

And someone who made a crack about the only different between &quot;hockey moms&quot; and a pitbull being lipstick, shouldn&#039;t be quite that precious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMP@200:  No it wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;misinterpretation&#8221;.  In the report I saw, it was just Governor Jane Swift &#8212; member of the so-called Palin Truth Squad &#8212; telling a big fat stinking lie.  And I use the L-word, because I don&#8217;t believe she&#8217;s lived her entire life in a convent, free from the taint of spicy idiomatic English.</p>
<p>You know, John, I actually think Obama needs to &#8220;lost his shit&#8221; just a little bit and start hitting back at blatant lies.  And if Palin apologists bitch about it, hit them where they live: You want to compare her to Margaret Thatcher &#8212; who was tough as nails, twice as sharp and never used her gender as an excuse to dodge an argument &#8212; walk the talk.</p>
<p>And someone who made a crack about the only different between &#8220;hockey moms&#8221; and a pitbull being lipstick, shouldn&#8217;t be quite that precious.</p>
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