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	<title>Comments on: Ghlaghghee (and Me) in the New York Times</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your intelligent response to this rather flimsy NYT piece. As a gay guy with a cat (and a partner), I felt frankly insulted by the writer&#039;s need to repeatedly emphasize that the new wave of cat owners were not only male but (gasp) straight as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your intelligent response to this rather flimsy NYT piece. As a gay guy with a cat (and a partner), I felt frankly insulted by the writer&#8217;s need to repeatedly emphasize that the new wave of cat owners were not only male but (gasp) straight as well.</p>
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		<title>By: abby</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/04/ghlaghghee-and-me-in-the-new-york-times/#comment-50075</link>
		<dc:creator>abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heya,

your post made me laugh out loud--although i must confess, the pulitzer folk did call me. apparently they are adding a category for excellence in journalism on &quot;gender/feline relations.&quot;

for the record--to channel sarah palin:

The chant, joe (may i call you joe?) was:

That&#039;s not a pulitzer you smell, that&#039;s kitty litter!

anyway, thanks again for your help. i didn&#039;t actually see the paper, as i was out of town--so maybe your photo is in it....

cheers,
abby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heya,</p>
<p>your post made me laugh out loud&#8211;although i must confess, the pulitzer folk did call me. apparently they are adding a category for excellence in journalism on &#8220;gender/feline relations.&#8221;</p>
<p>for the record&#8211;to channel sarah palin:</p>
<p>The chant, joe (may i call you joe?) was:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a pulitzer you smell, that&#8217;s kitty litter!</p>
<p>anyway, thanks again for your help. i didn&#8217;t actually see the paper, as i was out of town&#8211;so maybe your photo is in it&#8230;.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
abby</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it a cute, &quot;fluffy&quot; article.  And whilst I might be a married man, if, god-forbid, we ever went separate ways you will have never seen a fight like the one we&#039;d have over our cat.  Nations would tremble, armies would cower, and religions would look slightly embarrassed and develop inferiority complexes.
Although I&#039;m not sure it is the sort of news article that will shake our country to its core (those articles typically have &quot;DOW Jones&quot; and &quot;fell&quot; somewhere in the title these days), I&#039;m confused by a response over at Slate.  I won&#039;t link it, as I&#039;m not trying to start a fight, but apparently they have a &quot;Bogus trend of the week&quot; columnist who&#039;s sole purpose, it seems to me, is to see how big of an arse he can be to other journalists.  I&#039;ve nothing against snark, mind you.  I read Whatever and a few other blogs just to get my daily recommended allowance.  This guy doesn&#039;t seem snarky, he just seems plain mean.
I&#039;ve often seen bloggers I respect take swipes at Slate, and it&#039;s articles like that which show me why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it a cute, &#8220;fluffy&#8221; article.  And whilst I might be a married man, if, god-forbid, we ever went separate ways you will have never seen a fight like the one we&#8217;d have over our cat.  Nations would tremble, armies would cower, and religions would look slightly embarrassed and develop inferiority complexes.<br />
Although I&#8217;m not sure it is the sort of news article that will shake our country to its core (those articles typically have &#8220;DOW Jones&#8221; and &#8220;fell&#8221; somewhere in the title these days), I&#8217;m confused by a response over at Slate.  I won&#8217;t link it, as I&#8217;m not trying to start a fight, but apparently they have a &#8220;Bogus trend of the week&#8221; columnist who&#8217;s sole purpose, it seems to me, is to see how big of an arse he can be to other journalists.  I&#8217;ve nothing against snark, mind you.  I read Whatever and a few other blogs just to get my daily recommended allowance.  This guy doesn&#8217;t seem snarky, he just seems plain mean.<br />
I&#8217;ve often seen bloggers I respect take swipes at Slate, and it&#8217;s articles like that which show me why.</p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CartoonCoyote: Ah, but you don&#039;t know what a cat-charmer I am.  I&#039;d have her eating out of my hand in no time (not chocolates, though). A little tuna laced with catnip and she&#039;d be putty in my hands.

And I don&#039;t have to &quot;take advantage&quot; of anyone.  I&#039;d make you WANT it, don&#039;t you understand?  After I soften your brain with my ginger fondants in bittersweet chocolate and my cherries in Kirschwasser syrup in dark chocolate and my dulce de leche in milk chocolate and my Chambord ganache in white chocolate, I&#039;d give you a full body massage (without trespassing on any boundaries you may set) that would leave you as relaxed and pliant as the by-now-purring-and-sprawled-out Daisy, who would never dream of interfering, not that you&#039;d want her to. At that point you&#039;d be willing to do anything I wanted.

And then I&#039;d leave.  Because I, too, am a perfect gentleman, and besides I learned my lesson in college about seducing straight men (which is that it can generally be done, if one has no scruples whatsoever and cares absolutely nothing about destroying any friendship with the man in question; since figuring this out I have consistently chosen scruples and friendship over nights of passion).  I&#039;d rather be frustrated tonight than have you hate me in the morning.  That&#039;s why, later, when straight friends have gotten drunk and hit on me (&quot;experimenting&quot;) I&#039;ve turned them down flat, and acted like I didn&#039;t remember anything either (even though I was NOT drunk).

Also, at my age I don&#039;t really have the energy for the whole elaborate scenario, or rather I prefer to focus it on someone who already wants me, where &quot;doing it&quot; is a given, and my creativity can be focused on variations in how long he&#039;s tied up before I finally...well, I&#039;ll leave it there.

This is what I tell young gay men of my acquaintance who are considering trying to seduce a straight man for real: the &lt;i&gt;best possible outcome&lt;/i&gt; is that it will be a &lt;i&gt;complete waste of time.&lt;/i&gt; Doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s impossible, just that all other outcomes (including the rare (despite my nefarious scenario above) &quot;success&quot; outcome) are far, far worse.

Tell you what.  Let&#039;s share cats (though in fact I&#039;m allergic to them, a terrible sadness in my life) and chocolate, and leave sex and sisters out of the whole thing, shall we?  And if you have a deep need for the last word on this, please take it with my blessing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CartoonCoyote: Ah, but you don&#8217;t know what a cat-charmer I am.  I&#8217;d have her eating out of my hand in no time (not chocolates, though). A little tuna laced with catnip and she&#8217;d be putty in my hands.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t have to &#8220;take advantage&#8221; of anyone.  I&#8217;d make you WANT it, don&#8217;t you understand?  After I soften your brain with my ginger fondants in bittersweet chocolate and my cherries in Kirschwasser syrup in dark chocolate and my dulce de leche in milk chocolate and my Chambord ganache in white chocolate, I&#8217;d give you a full body massage (without trespassing on any boundaries you may set) that would leave you as relaxed and pliant as the by-now-purring-and-sprawled-out Daisy, who would never dream of interfering, not that you&#8217;d want her to. At that point you&#8217;d be willing to do anything I wanted.</p>
<p>And then I&#8217;d leave.  Because I, too, am a perfect gentleman, and besides I learned my lesson in college about seducing straight men (which is that it can generally be done, if one has no scruples whatsoever and cares absolutely nothing about destroying any friendship with the man in question; since figuring this out I have consistently chosen scruples and friendship over nights of passion).  I&#8217;d rather be frustrated tonight than have you hate me in the morning.  That&#8217;s why, later, when straight friends have gotten drunk and hit on me (&#8220;experimenting&#8221;) I&#8217;ve turned them down flat, and acted like I didn&#8217;t remember anything either (even though I was NOT drunk).</p>
<p>Also, at my age I don&#8217;t really have the energy for the whole elaborate scenario, or rather I prefer to focus it on someone who already wants me, where &#8220;doing it&#8221; is a given, and my creativity can be focused on variations in how long he&#8217;s tied up before I finally&#8230;well, I&#8217;ll leave it there.</p>
<p>This is what I tell young gay men of my acquaintance who are considering trying to seduce a straight man for real: the <i>best possible outcome</i> is that it will be a <i>complete waste of time.</i> Doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s impossible, just that all other outcomes (including the rare (despite my nefarious scenario above) &#8220;success&#8221; outcome) are far, far worse.</p>
<p>Tell you what.  Let&#8217;s share cats (though in fact I&#8217;m allergic to them, a terrible sadness in my life) and chocolate, and leave sex and sisters out of the whole thing, shall we?  And if you have a deep need for the last word on this, please take it with my blessing.</p>
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		<title>By: CartoonCoyote</title>
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		<dc:creator>CartoonCoyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xopher: Good thing you were joking. If you tried to take advantage of me on &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; turf, Daisy (my 16 yr. old tabby) would eviscerate you while purring a happy tune.

The best outcome for all would be you dropping off the chocolates, massage oils (don&#039;t need the liquor; I have plenty) &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; your sister on my front porch. In exchange for my promise to be a complete gentleman, Daisy will let you keep your intestines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xopher: Good thing you were joking. If you tried to take advantage of me on <i>my</i> turf, Daisy (my 16 yr. old tabby) would eviscerate you while purring a happy tune.</p>
<p>The best outcome for all would be you dropping off the chocolates, massage oils (don&#8217;t need the liquor; I have plenty) <i>and</i> your sister on my front porch. In exchange for my promise to be a complete gentleman, Daisy will let you keep your intestines.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Eric S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Eric S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Not for nothing, but how did Ze Frank and his cat, Annie miss this article (http://www.zefrank.com/annie/navigation.html)? Sad to think his Famous Guy with Cat cred has dropped so low.

Anyhoo, grats on the article. No such thing as bad press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Not for nothing, but how did Ze Frank and his cat, Annie miss this article (<a href="http://www.zefrank.com/annie/navigation.html)?" rel="nofollow">http://www.zefrank.com/annie/navigation.html)?</a> Sad to think his Famous Guy with Cat cred has dropped so low.</p>
<p>Anyhoo, grats on the article. No such thing as bad press.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t suppose you can ask nicely for copies of the photos?  Poor Zeus doesn&#039;t get nearly as much webtime as the other fluffballs.

Single, hetero, and two cats... although &quot;sharing space with a predator&quot; is stretching it a bit.  They both find me far more useful as a bedwarming device than as food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t suppose you can ask nicely for copies of the photos?  Poor Zeus doesn&#8217;t get nearly as much webtime as the other fluffballs.</p>
<p>Single, hetero, and two cats&#8230; although &#8220;sharing space with a predator&#8221; is stretching it a bit.  They both find me far more useful as a bedwarming device than as food.</p>
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		<title>By: Omaha Lisa</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/04/ghlaghghee-and-me-in-the-new-york-times/#comment-50060</link>
		<dc:creator>Omaha Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In fact, Mr. Scalzi thinks that dogs are for the weaker of spirit, since the dog is, in effect, “your wingman.”

Exactly what I&#039;ve been saying for years.   And yes, men who own a cat are extremely attractive to me.  They&#039;ve passed the initiation of winning that cat&#039;s affection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, Mr. Scalzi thinks that dogs are for the weaker of spirit, since the dog is, in effect, “your wingman.”</p>
<p>Exactly what I&#8217;ve been saying for years.   And yes, men who own a cat are extremely attractive to me.  They&#8217;ve passed the initiation of winning that cat&#8217;s affection.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking this whole &quot;cats are for gay men&quot; thing is a left over of pre-feminism society, when men considered their wife as sort of a servant who had to do their bidding. Since that was the accepted role of the woman in that time, a single man owning a dog would be looking for the same kind of companionship he was looking for in a woman: unquestioned fidelity, obediance, and the such. Where as in a more modern view of men-women relationships, where a man is looking for a partner to exchange on an equal level (a woman as smart or smarter as he is, who has her own mind and goals and where both members are individuals in their own right), might be more interested in this same kind of relationship with his pet. The cat knows who he is and what he wants, and he&#039;ll give you affection if he thinks you deserve it. It&#039;s a friendship rather than an ownership...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking this whole &#8220;cats are for gay men&#8221; thing is a left over of pre-feminism society, when men considered their wife as sort of a servant who had to do their bidding. Since that was the accepted role of the woman in that time, a single man owning a dog would be looking for the same kind of companionship he was looking for in a woman: unquestioned fidelity, obediance, and the such. Where as in a more modern view of men-women relationships, where a man is looking for a partner to exchange on an equal level (a woman as smart or smarter as he is, who has her own mind and goals and where both members are individuals in their own right), might be more interested in this same kind of relationship with his pet. The cat knows who he is and what he wants, and he&#8217;ll give you affection if he thinks you deserve it. It&#8217;s a friendship rather than an ownership&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xopher wrote, &lt;i&gt;Dogs like to have a job. Their idea of having a good time includes running after a thrown ball and bringing it back. Cats believe that YOUR job is to serve THEM&lt;/i&gt;

Which leads me to a famous saying around our family...

&lt;b&gt;Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.&lt;/b&gt;  ;)

(from someone who has dogs, since his wife likes them - but grew up with, and prefers, cats)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xopher wrote, <i>Dogs like to have a job. Their idea of having a good time includes running after a thrown ball and bringing it back. Cats believe that YOUR job is to serve THEM</i></p>
<p>Which leads me to a famous saying around our family&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.</b>  ;)</p>
<p>(from someone who has dogs, since his wife likes them &#8211; but grew up with, and prefers, cats)</p>
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