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		<title>By: Gaiseeessenny</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/08/your-second-presidential-debate-thread/#comment-120923</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi. I regularly scan this forum. This is the oldest culture undisputed to ask a topic. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I regularly scan this forum. This is the oldest culture undisputed to ask a topic.<br />
How multifarious in this forum are references Nautical port behind, knavish users?<br />
Can I worthiness all the advice that there is?</p>
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		<title>By: Dreamline!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dreamline!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im sorry guys, but that picture is just tooo creepy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry guys, but that picture is just tooo creepy!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On last week&#039;s SNL News, Amy Poehler, in commenting on who won the VP debate, said it was &quot;whoever you liked in the first place&quot; (or something to that effect). Of course, both camps are saying they won the debate. Various pundits and bloggers from both sides are saying how _______ destroyed _________. I think people see what they want to see.

I don&#039;t know if it is possible to objectively analyze the debate, but here goes:

-Tom Brokaw did a lousy job. I like Brokaw, but he just seemed too chummy with both of them. &quot;Now Senator, let me remind you for the 15th time about our time limit (chuckle).&quot; He should have made more of an effort to leep them on time. Gwen Ifill at least pointed out when they didn&#039;t answer the question. They shouldn&#039;t have been allowed to regurgitate their talking points.

-I thought both of them did a decent job addressing the audience and each other. Both moved around the room and seemed comfortable. McCain seemed a little more &#039;ornery&#039;, but he didn&#039;t act as tempermental as some have suggested he is.

Both did a decent job of including content, overall. In some areas, McCain did better, in some, Obama did better. Many of the people interviewed after the debate named a winner, but didn&#039;t say that either of them had a resounding victory. I would agree.

-I&#039;ll let my bias take center stage now. One of the issues that is very important to me is foreign policy. In that portion of the debate, Obama clearly won. His ideas were far more detailed and made more sense. McCain was vague and seemed like he was struggling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On last week&#8217;s SNL News, Amy Poehler, in commenting on who won the VP debate, said it was &#8220;whoever you liked in the first place&#8221; (or something to that effect). Of course, both camps are saying they won the debate. Various pundits and bloggers from both sides are saying how _______ destroyed _________. I think people see what they want to see.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it is possible to objectively analyze the debate, but here goes:</p>
<p>-Tom Brokaw did a lousy job. I like Brokaw, but he just seemed too chummy with both of them. &#8220;Now Senator, let me remind you for the 15th time about our time limit (chuckle).&#8221; He should have made more of an effort to leep them on time. Gwen Ifill at least pointed out when they didn&#8217;t answer the question. They shouldn&#8217;t have been allowed to regurgitate their talking points.</p>
<p>-I thought both of them did a decent job addressing the audience and each other. Both moved around the room and seemed comfortable. McCain seemed a little more &#8216;ornery&#8217;, but he didn&#8217;t act as tempermental as some have suggested he is.</p>
<p>Both did a decent job of including content, overall. In some areas, McCain did better, in some, Obama did better. Many of the people interviewed after the debate named a winner, but didn&#8217;t say that either of them had a resounding victory. I would agree.</p>
<p>-I&#8217;ll let my bias take center stage now. One of the issues that is very important to me is foreign policy. In that portion of the debate, Obama clearly won. His ideas were far more detailed and made more sense. McCain was vague and seemed like he was struggling.</p>
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		<title>By: John Scalzi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Scalzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a glitch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a glitch.</p>
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		<title>By: thisisendless</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some reason, Obama&#039;s comment about how &quot;one of the wheels must have fallen off the Straight Talk Express&quot; or something to that affect really cracked me up.  I was tired though.  He&#039;s just smooth.  It was so ironic when McCain was trying to paint himself as the &quot;even handed level headed one&quot;  Really?!?!?!  So the opposite.

Also, for some reason when I came down to the end of the page to comment, I noticed zakur&#039;s name was already filled in under &quot;name.&quot;  I find that odd.  Anyone know why that would be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, Obama&#8217;s comment about how &#8220;one of the wheels must have fallen off the Straight Talk Express&#8221; or something to that affect really cracked me up.  I was tired though.  He&#8217;s just smooth.  It was so ironic when McCain was trying to paint himself as the &#8220;even handed level headed one&#8221;  Really?!?!?!  So the opposite.</p>
<p>Also, for some reason when I came down to the end of the page to comment, I noticed zakur&#8217;s name was already filled in under &#8220;name.&#8221;  I find that odd.  Anyone know why that would be?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time that McCain said &#039;my friend&#039;, I was reminded of Emperor Palpatine. All he was missing was a hooded robe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time that McCain said &#8216;my friend&#8217;, I was reminded of Emperor Palpatine. All he was missing was a hooded robe.</p>
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		<title>By: zakur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zakur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daniel @ #6 - I&#039;ve read that his advisors have tried to stop him from using that phrase - to no avail. Last night he used it &lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/john-mccain-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;24 times&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel @ #6 &#8211; I&#8217;ve read that his advisors have tried to stop him from using that phrase &#8211; to no avail. Last night he used it <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/john-mccain-and.html" rel="nofollow">24 times</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Winter who is not Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Winter who is not Chang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep wondering if McCain is really just letting the election slip away on purpose.  He really did seem freaked out by the whole Wall St. meltdown, whereas Obama seems energized by it, like something he can tackle during the transition.

Kinda like I used to think of McCain back in 2000.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep wondering if McCain is really just letting the election slip away on purpose.  He really did seem freaked out by the whole Wall St. meltdown, whereas Obama seems energized by it, like something he can tackle during the transition.</p>
<p>Kinda like I used to think of McCain back in 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Swells</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watched the first 60 minutes of the debate, but spent the last fifteen of those lying on the couch, my head on pillow and my eyes closed.  So, really, just spent those 15 minutes listening to the debate.  At around 10:00 pm my wife insisted that I get off the couch and go to bed.  I follow politics closely, I have some very entrenched ideas about what the federal government should and should not be doing, and who should be the next president of the United States.  But even a political junkie like me just could not work up much enthusiasm for the collective performance last night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched the first 60 minutes of the debate, but spent the last fifteen of those lying on the couch, my head on pillow and my eyes closed.  So, really, just spent those 15 minutes listening to the debate.  At around 10:00 pm my wife insisted that I get off the couch and go to bed.  I follow politics closely, I have some very entrenched ideas about what the federal government should and should not be doing, and who should be the next president of the United States.  But even a political junkie like me just could not work up much enthusiasm for the collective performance last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Critter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry Critter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[McCain sounded like a snake oil salesman part of the time and an Evangelist the rest of the time.  Neither one was very good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain sounded like a snake oil salesman part of the time and an Evangelist the rest of the time.  Neither one was very good.</p>
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