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		<title>By: OriGuy</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/17/worth-noting/#comment-111887</link>
		<dc:creator>OriGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/6065490.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Houston Chronicle&lt;/a&gt; also endorsed Obama.
That&#039;s not likely to swing Texas into blue; the Tribune will have some influence in Indiana, where it is widely read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/6065490.html" rel="nofollow">Houston Chronicle</a> also endorsed Obama.<br />
That&#8217;s not likely to swing Texas into blue; the Tribune will have some influence in Indiana, where it is widely read.</p>
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		<title>By: pixelfish</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/17/worth-noting/#comment-111879</link>
		<dc:creator>pixelfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More signs of the end times: The Salt Lake Tribune endorses Obama too. http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_10750163

(&#039;Course it would more apocalyptic if the LDS-owned Deseret News endorsed Obama, but hey, the other big paper in the SLC area went for Obama, so whee.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More signs of the end times: The Salt Lake Tribune endorses Obama too. <a href="http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_10750163" rel="nofollow">http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_10750163</a></p>
<p>(&#8216;Course it would more apocalyptic if the LDS-owned Deseret News endorsed Obama, but hey, the other big paper in the SLC area went for Obama, so whee.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff S.</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/17/worth-noting/#comment-111854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Midwestern Progressive @ 19


I was all set to get snarky and defend myself and what I believe in and then decided. &quot;Nope, not going there.&quot;

I did say Moderate not modern.  I don&#039;t know what a modern Republican is, and if you noticed, I said I wasn&#039;t going to get into the left/right bickering that happens.  Why, you might ask, cause it&#039;s a waste of breath.


IMHO, a Moderate is one who is in the middle of the political spectrum.  I&#039;m pro-choice, anti-gun control, not threatened by the increase of marriages in California, and did not agree with the recent bailout.

So, Socially Liberal, fiscally conservative, and incurably optimistic.

I&#039;ll say it again, &quot;let&#039;s get to work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midwestern Progressive @ 19</p>
<p>I was all set to get snarky and defend myself and what I believe in and then decided. &#8220;Nope, not going there.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did say Moderate not modern.  I don&#8217;t know what a modern Republican is, and if you noticed, I said I wasn&#8217;t going to get into the left/right bickering that happens.  Why, you might ask, cause it&#8217;s a waste of breath.</p>
<p>IMHO, a Moderate is one who is in the middle of the political spectrum.  I&#8217;m pro-choice, anti-gun control, not threatened by the increase of marriages in California, and did not agree with the recent bailout.</p>
<p>So, Socially Liberal, fiscally conservative, and incurably optimistic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it again, &#8220;let&#8217;s get to work</p>
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		<title>By: George E Martin</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/17/worth-noting/#comment-111848</link>
		<dc:creator>George E Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 16, Sean L continued a speculation of Obama as an Heinlein character.

&quot;Or perhaps more of a Bonforte, or a Daniel Boone Davis?&quot;

I think that Bonforte is quite apt. For those who do not know the Heinlein character, John Joseph Bonforte, read the novel Double Star.

George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 16, Sean L continued a speculation of Obama as an Heinlein character.</p>
<p>&#8220;Or perhaps more of a Bonforte, or a Daniel Boone Davis?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that Bonforte is quite apt. For those who do not know the Heinlein character, John Joseph Bonforte, read the novel Double Star.</p>
<p>George</p>
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		<title>By: Monponsett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monponsett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First time they endorsed something else, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First time they endorsed something else, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rick247</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/17/worth-noting/#comment-111826</link>
		<dc:creator>rick247</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t particularly germane, but since you live in Ohio, Mr. S., my wife thought you should see it:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/festival/2008/10/groening-barry.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Homer Simpson votes&lt;/a&gt; (from an upcoming Simpsons episode)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t particularly germane, but since you live in Ohio, Mr. S., my wife thought you should see it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/festival/2008/10/groening-barry.html" rel="nofollow">Homer Simpson votes</a> (from an upcoming Simpsons episode)</p>
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		<title>By: Midwestern Progressive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midwestern Progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff @ 3:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;In reality we are not as divided as the pundits would have us believe..&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Respectfully (I mean that), hogwash.

Nearly eight years of being called a &quot;traitor&quot; by fellow citizens who actually support a president who considers the U.S. Constitution &quot;just a piece of paper&quot; has left me jaded.  All because we dared oppose this little man.

(And they continue to support him, even now.)

&lt;em&gt;&quot;...if we give this a chance we could possibly fill in the divide and get some positive outcomes for a change.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

M,kay, how about George Bush supporting &quot;modern conservatives&quot; go first?

Sorry.

This sound repudiation of &quot;modern conservatism&quot; coming leaves me, in a lot of ways, gleeful.  Modern conservatism = support of torture = extraordinary rendition = domestic spying = Abu Grahib = &quot;kill him&quot; at Palin rallies = George Bush = Sarah Palin winking = Dick Cheney = $7,000,000,000,000.00 for Wall Street = $1,000,000,000,000.00 national debt.  

Good riddance to it.  

I think these phony &quot;modern conservatives&quot; &lt;em&gt;small government&lt;/em&gt; George Bush supporters owe the rest of us a goddam big apology.  

I won&#039;t hold my breath waiting for it, mind you.

But still....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff @ 3:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;In reality we are not as divided as the pundits would have us believe..&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Respectfully (I mean that), hogwash.</p>
<p>Nearly eight years of being called a &#8220;traitor&#8221; by fellow citizens who actually support a president who considers the U.S. Constitution &#8220;just a piece of paper&#8221; has left me jaded.  All because we dared oppose this little man.</p>
<p>(And they continue to support him, even now.)</p>
<p><em>&#8220;&#8230;if we give this a chance we could possibly fill in the divide and get some positive outcomes for a change.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>M,kay, how about George Bush supporting &#8220;modern conservatives&#8221; go first?</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
<p>This sound repudiation of &#8220;modern conservatism&#8221; coming leaves me, in a lot of ways, gleeful.  Modern conservatism = support of torture = extraordinary rendition = domestic spying = Abu Grahib = &#8220;kill him&#8221; at Palin rallies = George Bush = Sarah Palin winking = Dick Cheney = $7,000,000,000,000.00 for Wall Street = $1,000,000,000,000.00 national debt.  </p>
<p>Good riddance to it.  </p>
<p>I think these phony &#8220;modern conservatives&#8221; <em>small government</em> George Bush supporters owe the rest of us a goddam big apology.  </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting for it, mind you.</p>
<p>But still&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/10/17/worth-noting/#comment-111777</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PeterL @ 13

Part of it is an historical leftover, from when newspapers were as much about political boosterism as about bringing you the news (which is why some papers are still called the Democrat or the Republican).  They were started as sheets to help elect their guys or bring about their policies.  Over time, they evolved and the concept of journalistic integrity was introduced, but the editorial pages have always been there.

And 

GVDub @ 12

While the &lt;i&gt;LA Times&lt;/i&gt; is owned by the Tribune Company, it has a different editorial board.  Nevertheless, what makes its endorsement surprising is that, as PeterL wishes, they have not endorsed anyone for president since 1972 when they endorsed Nixon. The surprise then is not who they endorsed, but that they actually endorsed anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeterL @ 13</p>
<p>Part of it is an historical leftover, from when newspapers were as much about political boosterism as about bringing you the news (which is why some papers are still called the Democrat or the Republican).  They were started as sheets to help elect their guys or bring about their policies.  Over time, they evolved and the concept of journalistic integrity was introduced, but the editorial pages have always been there.</p>
<p>And </p>
<p>GVDub @ 12</p>
<p>While the <i>LA Times</i> is owned by the Tribune Company, it has a different editorial board.  Nevertheless, what makes its endorsement surprising is that, as PeterL wishes, they have not endorsed anyone for president since 1972 when they endorsed Nixon. The surprise then is not who they endorsed, but that they actually endorsed anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Obama is a bit like a Heinlein heroine, while we&#039;re at it.</description>
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		<title>By: Sean L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hector: Aha! But the question is, who? Not quite Ben Caxton, I think, but neither is he a Jubal Harshaw.

Dare I say Michael Smith, the Man from Mars? (He did joke about being from Krypton).

Or perhaps more of a Bonforte, or a Daniel Boone Davis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hector: Aha! But the question is, who? Not quite Ben Caxton, I think, but neither is he a Jubal Harshaw.</p>
<p>Dare I say Michael Smith, the Man from Mars? (He did joke about being from Krypton).</p>
<p>Or perhaps more of a Bonforte, or a Daniel Boone Davis?</p>
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