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	<title>Comments on: Athena Trying Very Hard Not to Be Impressed By Niagara Falls</title>
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	<description>I FORGET WHAT EIGHT WAS FOR</description>
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		<title>By: Jarhead</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Step by step....inch by inch.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step by step&#8230;.inch by inch&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mycroft W</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mycroft W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, yes, Niagara Falls, Ontario, where a slightly younger Mycroft failed to faint...

I was in a choir out east, that performed wherever.  We were asked to do a show at the Bandshell in Niagara Falls (that&#039;s east of the highway - sort of looks like Las Vegas off the strip and downtown, compared to the Falls side; you know, like people actually live there?)  So we did.

July evening.  33C.  90% humidity.  No wind.  Facing East, into the almost setting sun (because that way the audience can see), so surface temperature somewhat higher than ambient.  Oh, did I mention full formal uniform, wool suit, tie, and hat?  You could listen to the sun setting by noticing which voice was out of time, because the sun blinded their view of the conductor.

There was *lots* of water &quot;backstage&quot;, and nobody actually fainted.  Great show, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, Niagara Falls, Ontario, where a slightly younger Mycroft failed to faint&#8230;</p>
<p>I was in a choir out east, that performed wherever.  We were asked to do a show at the Bandshell in Niagara Falls (that&#8217;s east of the highway &#8211; sort of looks like Las Vegas off the strip and downtown, compared to the Falls side; you know, like people actually live there?)  So we did.</p>
<p>July evening.  33C.  90% humidity.  No wind.  Facing East, into the almost setting sun (because that way the audience can see), so surface temperature somewhat higher than ambient.  Oh, did I mention full formal uniform, wool suit, tie, and hat?  You could listen to the sun setting by noticing which voice was out of time, because the sun blinded their view of the conductor.</p>
<p>There was *lots* of water &#8220;backstage&#8221;, and nobody actually fainted.  Great show, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Zahn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Zahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is the horseshoe falls behind them. They are on the Canadian side. The Maid of the Mist and Cave of the Winds definitely are worth doing when you&#039;re up there. Getting right under the flow itself is fun. And the Cave of the Winds is the only place I&#039;ve ever seen Seagull babies before.

What I found most intriguing when I was there was how rundown the American side was near the falls. The only nice hotel/eatery/anything is the Indian Casino and most of the houses look like their abandoned and condemned. (Late night wandering looking for a drug store)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the horseshoe falls behind them. They are on the Canadian side. The Maid of the Mist and Cave of the Winds definitely are worth doing when you&#8217;re up there. Getting right under the flow itself is fun. And the Cave of the Winds is the only place I&#8217;ve ever seen Seagull babies before.</p>
<p>What I found most intriguing when I was there was how rundown the American side was near the falls. The only nice hotel/eatery/anything is the Indian Casino and most of the houses look like their abandoned and condemned. (Late night wandering looking for a drug store)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree about Wonderfalls--get the DVD.  The one season they produced is a lovely, satisfyingly self-contained story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about Wonderfalls&#8211;get the DVD.  The one season they produced is a lovely, satisfyingly self-contained story.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Slowly I turned, step by step...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Slowly I turned, step by step&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I was 5 at the time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I was 5 at the time!</p>
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		<title>By: WendyB_09</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Terry - Hey, we&#039;re showing our age!! 

I too remember the falls being turned off, it was the year after we moved from outside Buffalo to the NYC area. I think we made a special trip back to Western New York the next summer just to see the Falls off! 

I&#039;m sure if I dug around in my Dad&#039;s old slides I&#039;d find the photos we took then, maybe even some 8mm movie film.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Terry &#8211; Hey, we&#8217;re showing our age!! </p>
<p>I too remember the falls being turned off, it was the year after we moved from outside Buffalo to the NYC area. I think we made a special trip back to Western New York the next summer just to see the Falls off! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure if I dug around in my Dad&#8217;s old slides I&#8217;d find the photos we took then, maybe even some 8mm movie film.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually found one on the web. It was 1969. Here&#039;s a link to a photo:
http://www.niagarafrontier.com/image/CTdewater.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually found one on the web. It was 1969. Here&#8217;s a link to a photo:<br />
<a href="http://www.niagarafrontier.com/image/CTdewater.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.niagarafrontier.com/image/CTdewater.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, here&#039;s an oddity. I have photographs from a vacation my family took when I was a little kid--and the falls were turned off!

Yep. In order to shore up the rocks and clean out some of the debris, they diverted all the water over the horseshoe falls. What you had were the Niagara Cliffs. I wonder how rare those photos are, come to think of it. I&#039;ve mentioned them to people before and they don&#039;t believe me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, here&#8217;s an oddity. I have photographs from a vacation my family took when I was a little kid&#8211;and the falls were turned off!</p>
<p>Yep. In order to shore up the rocks and clean out some of the debris, they diverted all the water over the horseshoe falls. What you had were the Niagara Cliffs. I wonder how rare those photos are, come to think of it. I&#8217;ve mentioned them to people before and they don&#8217;t believe me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Buchheit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Buchheit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep being impressed with the falls every time I visit. And I do recommend seeing them from the American side as well. While it&#039;s impressive to watch the water crash down, from the American side you get the full impression of the water flowing by (although it&#039;s not as picturesque). But the Cave of Winds tour is much more fun than the tunnels on the Canadian side, but that&#039;s only during the summer. 

The thing that really gets me, is that the water over the falls is restricted now, during the day, I think it&#039;s only something like 33% of it&#039;s natural flow (at night they get it down to 15% or so IIRC). The rest is diverted to 1) slow the erosion and 2) generate a lot of hydro power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep being impressed with the falls every time I visit. And I do recommend seeing them from the American side as well. While it&#8217;s impressive to watch the water crash down, from the American side you get the full impression of the water flowing by (although it&#8217;s not as picturesque). But the Cave of Winds tour is much more fun than the tunnels on the Canadian side, but that&#8217;s only during the summer. </p>
<p>The thing that really gets me, is that the water over the falls is restricted now, during the day, I think it&#8217;s only something like 33% of it&#8217;s natural flow (at night they get it down to 15% or so IIRC). The rest is diverted to 1) slow the erosion and 2) generate a lot of hydro power.</p>
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