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	<title>Comments on: Inasmuch as People Seem Determined to Send This To Me Every Five Minutes Until I Post Something About It</title>
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	<description>I FORGET WHAT EIGHT WAS FOR</description>
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		<title>By: Hector Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hector Owen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandi Hj @105: My high school did not participate in NHS, so that&#039;s all news to me. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandi Hj @105: My high school did not participate in NHS, so that&#8217;s all news to me. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trey: In fact, I was. You were saying?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trey: In fact, I was. You were saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Hj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandi Hj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hector @101: Requirements for National Honor Society are a 3.0 GPA, participation in extra-curricular activities, and no major black marks on your permanent record, e.g. got caught drinking or cheating. Not the same as National Merit Scholar. For that matter, National Merit Semi-finalist is not the same as National Merit Scholar either. Generally a goodly segment of the popular/beauty pageant crowd is in NHS, while Merit Scholars are generally much more, well, scholarly. 

However, in real life, the main thing a National Merit Scholarship means is getting out of school with a bit less debt than your fellow grads, not an unimportant consequence. As for the geek saint thing, I&#039;ll plead guilty to the geek part for sure. Or the &quot;not the popular crowd&quot; part anyway. But that was long ago and far away, and I had actually forgotten about it until this thread. At least I don&#039;t have to be mad at SP for spoiling that distinction like she has spoiled amateur flute playing and the Far Northern Plains dialect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hector @101: Requirements for National Honor Society are a 3.0 GPA, participation in extra-curricular activities, and no major black marks on your permanent record, e.g. got caught drinking or cheating. Not the same as National Merit Scholar. For that matter, National Merit Semi-finalist is not the same as National Merit Scholar either. Generally a goodly segment of the popular/beauty pageant crowd is in NHS, while Merit Scholars are generally much more, well, scholarly. </p>
<p>However, in real life, the main thing a National Merit Scholarship means is getting out of school with a bit less debt than your fellow grads, not an unimportant consequence. As for the geek saint thing, I&#8217;ll plead guilty to the geek part for sure. Or the &#8220;not the popular crowd&#8221; part anyway. But that was long ago and far away, and I had actually forgotten about it until this thread. At least I don&#8217;t have to be mad at SP for spoiling that distinction like she has spoiled amateur flute playing and the Far Northern Plains dialect.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This all kind of reminds me of Rush Limbaugh telling whoppers about Clinton.

If by chance, he got called on one of them, he would stand behind his lie saying that what he said may not be specifically true, but it was something Clinton would do.

I think it funny how thin-skinned the repubs get when hit with their own tactics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all kind of reminds me of Rush Limbaugh telling whoppers about Clinton.</p>
<p>If by chance, he got called on one of them, he would stand behind his lie saying that what he said may not be specifically true, but it was something Clinton would do.</p>
<p>I think it funny how thin-skinned the repubs get when hit with their own tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; First we survey the deep levels of Palin Derangement Syndrome that have possessed everyone on the left since her entrance on the national scene. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, generally, I do have reactions to extreme stupidity in politics. 

YMMV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> First we survey the deep levels of Palin Derangement Syndrome that have possessed everyone on the left since her entrance on the national scene. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, generally, I do have reactions to extreme stupidity in politics. </p>
<p>YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Of course, we agree, the interesting thing is that they are NOT doing more than one thing at a time.&lt;/i&gt;

Why, yes, they are, as a matter of fact, as the large number of people who died in Indonesia and London and Madrid since the invasion of Iraq could testify to, &lt;i&gt;if they were alive.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, I&#039;m sorry, did you mean to only count American deaths as meaningful.  That&#039;s very Christian, indeed.

&lt;i&gt;Then it turns out that this Africa item came from a fabricated source.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s not that complicated. 

1.  Fox News runs &quot;Africa is a country&quot; story.
2.  MSNBC runs stories claiming source for #1 is Martin Eisenstadt
3.  Eisenstadt turns out not to exist.
4.  MSNBC retracts 2.
5.  Fox DOES NOT retract 1 as they had never claimed that Eisenstadt was the source.

(Unless I&#039;ve missed them retracting it?)

#1 has exactly the same truth value as it did before MSNBC came along.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Of course, we agree, the interesting thing is that they are NOT doing more than one thing at a time.</i></p>
<p>Why, yes, they are, as a matter of fact, as the large number of people who died in Indonesia and London and Madrid since the invasion of Iraq could testify to, <i>if they were alive.</i></p>
<p>Oh, I&#8217;m sorry, did you mean to only count American deaths as meaningful.  That&#8217;s very Christian, indeed.</p>
<p><i>Then it turns out that this Africa item came from a fabricated source.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that complicated. </p>
<p>1.  Fox News runs &#8220;Africa is a country&#8221; story.<br />
2.  MSNBC runs stories claiming source for #1 is Martin Eisenstadt<br />
3.  Eisenstadt turns out not to exist.<br />
4.  MSNBC retracts 2.<br />
5.  Fox DOES NOT retract 1 as they had never claimed that Eisenstadt was the source.</p>
<p>(Unless I&#8217;ve missed them retracting it?)</p>
<p>#1 has exactly the same truth value as it did before MSNBC came along.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hector Owen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Merit Scholar or not, she &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a member of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whs.matsuk12.us/palin.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Honor Society&lt;/a&gt; at Wasilla High School. FWIW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merit Scholar or not, she <i>was</i> a member of the <a href="http://www.whs.matsuk12.us/palin.htm" rel="nofollow">Honor Society</a> at Wasilla High School. FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Salome:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;That does not mean Hunter did not have cancer.&lt;/em&gt;

No, but since most people don&#039;t have cancer, and he had the depressive history you cite, the hypothesis dependent on the smallest degree of unsupported assumption is that he did not have cancer.

&lt;em&gt;It also doesn’t mean that Sarah Palin isn’t smart if there is no mention of her having been a National Merit Scholar. I was also a semi-finalist, and I can’t even find me on the internet!&lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re not a public figure.  As for SP, the hypothesis dependent on the smallest degree of unsupported assumption is that she was not a National Merit Scholar.  

As for her not being smart, that&#039;s hard to tell, really, from the available evidence.  It seems to me inescapable to conclude that she&#039;s &lt;em&gt;either&lt;/em&gt; rather stupid &lt;em&gt;or&lt;/em&gt; appallingly and willfully ignorant (or, of course, both).  Hard to know which is worse, but we&#039;ve had one of those in office for the past 8 years, and I for one don&#039;t want another, ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Salome:</strong> <em>That does not mean Hunter did not have cancer.</em></p>
<p>No, but since most people don&#8217;t have cancer, and he had the depressive history you cite, the hypothesis dependent on the smallest degree of unsupported assumption is that he did not have cancer.</p>
<p><em>It also doesn’t mean that Sarah Palin isn’t smart if there is no mention of her having been a National Merit Scholar. I was also a semi-finalist, and I can’t even find me on the internet!</em></p>
<p>You&#8217;re not a public figure.  As for SP, the hypothesis dependent on the smallest degree of unsupported assumption is that she was not a National Merit Scholar.  </p>
<p>As for her not being smart, that&#8217;s hard to tell, really, from the available evidence.  It seems to me inescapable to conclude that she&#8217;s <em>either</em> rather stupid <em>or</em> appallingly and willfully ignorant (or, of course, both).  Hard to know which is worse, but we&#8217;ve had one of those in office for the past 8 years, and I for one don&#8217;t want another, ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Salome</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Trey, for your follow-up.  It&#039;s not uncommon to pick stuff up on the internet and run with it.  The other day, I found someone in a Hunter Thompson thread say he Hunter committed suicide because he was &quot;riddled with cancer&quot;.  When I attempted to verify this information (as I thought there had been nothing said of it when Hunter died), I found no mention of anything leading to his suicide but depression, suicidal thoughts, and a long-time desire to retain the ability to kill himself any time he wanted.  That does not mean Hunter did not have cancer.  It&#039;s no one&#039;s business what&#039;s in his medical file.  It also doesn&#039;t mean that Sarah Palin isn&#039;t smart if there is no mention of her having been a National Merit Scholar.  I was also a semi-finalist, and I can&#039;t even find me on the internet!  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Trey, for your follow-up.  It&#8217;s not uncommon to pick stuff up on the internet and run with it.  The other day, I found someone in a Hunter Thompson thread say he Hunter committed suicide because he was &#8220;riddled with cancer&#8221;.  When I attempted to verify this information (as I thought there had been nothing said of it when Hunter died), I found no mention of anything leading to his suicide but depression, suicidal thoughts, and a long-time desire to retain the ability to kill himself any time he wanted.  That does not mean Hunter did not have cancer.  It&#8217;s no one&#8217;s business what&#8217;s in his medical file.  It also doesn&#8217;t mean that Sarah Palin isn&#8217;t smart if there is no mention of her having been a National Merit Scholar.  I was also a semi-finalist, and I can&#8217;t even find me on the internet!  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Beemac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beemac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Athena, to her credit, refused to believe what I had just told her. She thought I was kidding. I didn’t have the heart to correct her.&quot;

Ah the clarity of the child.

And to the &quot;false but accurate&quot; crowd, remember how far that got Dan Rather.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Athena, to her credit, refused to believe what I had just told her. She thought I was kidding. I didn’t have the heart to correct her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah the clarity of the child.</p>
<p>And to the &#8220;false but accurate&#8221; crowd, remember how far that got Dan Rather.</p>
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