Comments on: Uh, Canada http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/ DEVISING A SYSTEM FOR REMEMBERING EVERYTHING Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:57:18 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: AnthonyX http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121864 AnthonyX Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:16:53 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121864 Leila, I have said previously, that it was dirty pool by HArper. Just a quick aside, a decade of dirty tricks by Liberal Jean Chretien, only left him with a positive reputation as a "street fighter".... keeping on topic....The opposition was pissed Harper pulled it back.....and they ..went NUTS! Leila, I have said previously, that it was dirty pool by HArper. Just a quick aside, a decade of dirty tricks by Liberal Jean Chretien, only left him with a positive reputation as a “street fighter”….

keeping on topic….The opposition was pissed Harper pulled it back…..and they ..went NUTS!

]]> By: leila http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121804 leila Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:03:26 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121804 AnthonyX: The $1.95/vote granted to the parties totals approximately $27 million. The federal government spends over $200 billion annually. $27 million is only 0.01% of the federal budget. The Cons claim that this measure was intended only to save money is clearly bullshit. They were obviously attempting to cripple the opposition. That is not democracy. AnthonyX:

The $1.95/vote granted to the parties totals approximately $27 million. The federal government spends over $200 billion annually. $27 million is only 0.01% of the federal budget. The Cons claim that this measure was intended only to save money is clearly bullshit. They were obviously attempting to cripple the opposition. That is not democracy.

]]> By: Mycroft W http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121795 Mycroft W Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:09:14 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121795 So, we want to go back to the Good Old Days where campaign money comes wholly from private sources, because *of course* they wouldn't want any quid pro quo, and away from "public financing of campaigns, indexed to how much the voters approved of you last time" - fair, honest, and with no hidden agenda. Because, you know, the moneyed corporations like the Conservatives - they make it easier to make more money and have more power, removing the regulations that make it difficult if necessary. Good oh - feel free to ask Alan Greenspan or Citibank how well that works in general. Or citizens of Walkerton, ON, maybe. Or customers of Maple Leaf Foods. And strangely enough, we're going to do it at a time where, due to many factors (including Liberal instability, and the fact that, you know, people budget for funds they're promised) the Conservatives seem to be the only ones who've got the last election paid off. And, without that money, the other parties won't get that last election paid off before they have to campaign again. Hmm, I wonder whether that will skew the election results in a random direction? And 1.95 a vote (per year) adds up, you know. Imagine if your company (asusming you don't work for Ford or the like) had a $14 million/year deal cut out from under them with three months warning. However, compared to the "benny fund" 2% drop in GST, $14 million/year is a drop in the bucket. Why aren't we repealing that if we need more money? Oh yeah, because the GST reduction is a pro for one party, and killing the subsidy is also a pro for the same party. Wonder how that "just happened", I does. So, we want to go back to the Good Old Days where campaign money comes wholly from private sources, because *of course* they wouldn’t want any quid pro quo, and away from “public financing of campaigns, indexed to how much the voters approved of you last time” – fair, honest, and with no hidden agenda. Because, you know, the moneyed corporations like the Conservatives – they make it easier to make more money and have more power, removing the regulations that make it difficult if necessary.

Good oh – feel free to ask Alan Greenspan or Citibank how well that works in general. Or citizens of Walkerton, ON, maybe. Or customers of Maple Leaf Foods.

And strangely enough, we’re going to do it at a time where, due to many factors (including Liberal instability, and the fact that, you know, people budget for funds they’re promised) the Conservatives seem to be the only ones who’ve got the last election paid off. And, without that money, the other parties won’t get that last election paid off before they have to campaign again. Hmm, I wonder whether that will skew the election results in a random direction?

And 1.95 a vote (per year) adds up, you know. Imagine if your company (asusming you don’t work for Ford or the like) had a $14 million/year deal cut out from under them with three months warning. However, compared to the “benny fund” 2% drop in GST, $14 million/year is a drop in the bucket. Why aren’t we repealing that if we need more money? Oh yeah, because the GST reduction is a pro for one party, and killing the subsidy is also a pro for the same party.

Wonder how that “just happened”, I does.

]]> By: AnthonyX http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121775 AnthonyX Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:38:52 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121775 82>> also...61% disapprove of this type of funding: http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=1033828 82>>

also…61% disapprove of this type of funding:

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=1033828

]]> By: AnthonyX http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121774 AnthonyX Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:36:26 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121774 Mr. The Fighter Dirty Pool by Harper no doubt. The fact is, when they got pissed he pulled it back, then the 3 parties went nuts with there actions. I just want to continually point that $1.95 out because it seems to be not mentioned. Always brushed aside. Its about the Economy etc etc BS! Now the Green PArty I can understand, might need this, but the Grits(The party of Bay St) and the NDP (unions) have been around forever. If your message is that distasteful that you cannot generate funds then a time to look in the mirror is nigh. Mr. The Fighter

Dirty Pool by Harper no doubt. The fact is, when they got pissed he pulled it back, then the 3 parties went nuts with there actions.

I just want to continually point that $1.95 out because it seems to be not mentioned. Always brushed aside. Its about the Economy etc etc BS!

Now the Green PArty I can understand, might need this, but the Grits(The party of Bay St) and the NDP (unions) have been around forever. If your message is that distasteful that you cannot generate funds then a time to look in the mirror is nigh.

]]> By: The Fighter http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121761 The Fighter Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:58:47 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121761 @78>> How is it greedy to want to get the money per vote you've been counting on getting? Not every party has corporate backing to the degree the Tories do. The Green Party would never be able to run again if this "trough" was taken away. The Grits and NDP count on this money to subsidize effective campaigns, so taking it away would have the effect of killing off Harper's competition. That's greed, my boy. @78>>
How is it greedy to want to get the money per vote you’ve been counting on getting? Not every party has corporate backing to the degree the Tories do. The Green Party would never be able to run again if this “trough” was taken away. The Grits and NDP count on this money to subsidize effective campaigns, so taking it away would have the effect of killing off Harper’s competition.

That’s greed, my boy.

]]> By: Trey http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121754 Trey Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:21:00 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121754 "The health care system in this country is so broken we could do almost anything, and it would be better than what we have now." Like the Cuban system? That was a meaningless statement you made. I would like to read your critique of the health care system in America, but you will need to be specific. Now if you are going to discuss the outrageous expense of the Care/Caid system, I agree. Anything that passes through the government gets stepped on big time. That system costs more, and pays pysicians less. Trey “The health care system in this country is so broken we could do almost anything, and it would be better than what we have now.”

Like the Cuban system?

That was a meaningless statement you made. I would like to read your critique of the health care system in America, but you will need to be specific.

Now if you are going to discuss the outrageous expense of the Care/Caid system, I agree. Anything that passes through the government gets stepped on big time. That system costs more, and pays pysicians less.

Trey

]]> By: Trey http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121753 Trey Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:17:15 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121753 Jon, thanks for the advice. I did as you suggested and it said "The highest survival rates were found in the U.S. for breast and prostate cancer" Good on ya dude! Trey Jon, thanks for the advice. I did as you suggested and it said “The highest survival rates were found in the U.S. for breast and prostate cancer”

Good on ya dude!

Trey

]]> By: AnthonyX http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121637 AnthonyX Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:25:33 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121637 Sandra Rutton I took a look at your site. Your books look interesting. I will take a shot at them. Just purchased from Amazon! Sandra Rutton

I took a look at your site. Your books look interesting. I will take a shot at them. Just purchased from Amazon!

]]> By: AnthonyX http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/03/uh-canada/#comment-121636 AnthonyX Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:15:37 +0000 http://scalzi.wordpress.com/?p=5558#comment-121636 Eddie, Edward, Ed.....Can I call you Ed? Whats with the Delusional Troll land stuff???? I like Scalzi thus I am here. Or are only persons of a specific political persuasion allowed to speak/type? Eddie if I may quote you: "...actually address the points I made, please..." I mentioned many times that what the coalition did is legal and democratic in our system....was it ethical or smart no. Was the prorogueing a move that was acceptable in our system as well...yup. If the opposition had any brains...they would have agreed to this deal......waited till MAy to get a new Liberal leader....waited till at least a 8 months after the last election and tried to find something that the Conservatives did wrong to make this move.....instead it came down to pure greed, pigs at the trough who wanted that $1.95 per vote. Eddie, Edward, Ed…..Can I call you Ed? Whats with the Delusional Troll land stuff????

I like Scalzi thus I am here. Or are only persons of a specific political persuasion allowed to speak/type?

Eddie if I may quote you: “…actually address the points I made, please…”

I mentioned many times that what the coalition did is legal and democratic in our system….was it ethical or smart no.

Was the prorogueing a move that was acceptable in our system as well…yup.

If the opposition had any brains…they would have agreed to this deal……waited till MAy to get a new Liberal leader….waited till at least a 8 months after the last election and tried to find something that the Conservatives did wrong to make this move…..instead it came down to pure greed, pigs at the trough who wanted that $1.95 per vote.

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