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	<title>Comments on: When a Power List Isn&#8217;t</title>
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		<title>By: Therese Norén</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/15/when-a-power-list-isnt/#comment-123894</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese Norén</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late to the party, but I can&#039;t believe nobody mentioned Voyage of the Damned yet, when we&#039;re talking about Kylie Minogue and science fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late to the party, but I can&#8217;t believe nobody mentioned Voyage of the Damned yet, when we&#8217;re talking about Kylie Minogue and science fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Adams</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/15/when-a-power-list-isnt/#comment-123473</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is how are they defining power?  Yes, Stephanie Meyer has made a lot of money, but does she really have power in the SF industry?</description>
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		<title>By: The Fighter</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/15/when-a-power-list-isnt/#comment-123426</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m appalled that no &quot;power list&quot; of influential figures in scifi ever has Shotaro Ishinomori.

Honestly, the guy created Cyborg 009 and Kaiketsu Zubat. Those are entirely worthy in themselves, but shall I further point out his most enduring creations, one of which is virtually unknown here in the West, but everyone has seen (perhaps unwillingly) what became of his other work.

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m appalled that no &#8220;power list&#8221; of influential figures in scifi ever has Shotaro Ishinomori.</p>
<p>Honestly, the guy created Cyborg 009 and Kaiketsu Zubat. Those are entirely worthy in themselves, but shall I further point out his most enduring creations, one of which is virtually unknown here in the West, but everyone has seen (perhaps unwillingly) what became of his other work.</p>
<p>Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phasma Felis@72: I don&#039;t think &#039;Things geeks like&#039; can be quite right; the name on that list which leaps out to me as non-science-fictional is Stephenie Meyer, and I don&#039;t think geeks like her work particularly.  I agree with Scalzi@25; they mean &#039;speculative fiction&#039;. It would be nice if more people used that expression, but it has a lot of syllables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phasma Felis@72: I don&#8217;t think &#8216;Things geeks like&#8217; can be quite right; the name on that list which leaps out to me as non-science-fictional is Stephenie Meyer, and I don&#8217;t think geeks like her work particularly.  I agree with Scalzi@25; they mean &#8217;speculative fiction&#8217;. It would be nice if more people used that expression, but it has a lot of syllables.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John H @ 78,

I&#039;m exaggerating to an extent as my local Waterstones appears to actually Have A Clue.  I&#039;m still reeling, though, because there had been a dedicated sci-fi bookstore (The Friar Street Bookshop) scant minutes from my front door.   It&#039;s closure just makes it&lt;i&gt;seem&lt;/i&gt; like a wall of Pratchett, screenplay novels, every other Terry Brooks ever written et cetera.   I did score two Charlie Stross novels and a Sean Williams there today, and they do have a relatively decent selection.  Maybe I&#039;m just strossed out. Aha.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m exaggerating to an extent as my local Waterstones appears to actually Have A Clue.  I&#8217;m still reeling, though, because there had been a dedicated sci-fi bookstore (The Friar Street Bookshop) scant minutes from my front door.   It&#8217;s closure just makes it<i>seem</i> like a wall of Pratchett, screenplay novels, every other Terry Brooks ever written et cetera.   I did score two Charlie Stross novels and a Sean Williams there today, and they do have a relatively decent selection.  Maybe I&#8217;m just strossed out. Aha.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s long past the sell-by date to actually respond, but oh well...

Arguing that Kanye is more influential than, say, Dragonforce is actually fairly easy. Kanye is a gateway drug. He uses light sf elements and gives them an imprimatur or veneer of cool for his legions of teenyboppers and sorority girls who might, as a result, take a step past Hello Kitty kawaii and move on to the hardcore limited edition robot figurines and anime-based zipper pulls. Those blessed few who master TTFAF are likely already members of hardcore geekdom, or are just obsessive Guitar Heros who wouldn&#039;t bother listening to Dragonforce on their iPods but relish the challenge represented by the song. I&#039;d imagine album sales numbers and demographics would bear this theory out.

Of course, with all the sf sub-genres and species, Kanye&#039;s brand of sf, and that which his fans will pick up on, is going to be far different than the type consumed by your average uber-geek. Perhaps that&#039;s lending to the confusion and debate here.

I&#039;m not actually a Kanye fan, but I loves me a good argument</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s long past the sell-by date to actually respond, but oh well&#8230;</p>
<p>Arguing that Kanye is more influential than, say, Dragonforce is actually fairly easy. Kanye is a gateway drug. He uses light sf elements and gives them an imprimatur or veneer of cool for his legions of teenyboppers and sorority girls who might, as a result, take a step past Hello Kitty kawaii and move on to the hardcore limited edition robot figurines and anime-based zipper pulls. Those blessed few who master TTFAF are likely already members of hardcore geekdom, or are just obsessive Guitar Heros who wouldn&#8217;t bother listening to Dragonforce on their iPods but relish the challenge represented by the song. I&#8217;d imagine album sales numbers and demographics would bear this theory out.</p>
<p>Of course, with all the sf sub-genres and species, Kanye&#8217;s brand of sf, and that which his fans will pick up on, is going to be far different than the type consumed by your average uber-geek. Perhaps that&#8217;s lending to the confusion and debate here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not actually a Kanye fan, but I loves me a good argument</p>
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		<title>By: John H</title>
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		<dc:creator>John H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MarkHB@74:  As much as some people hate the big-box booksellers, I have to say the Borders I go to has three full cases of SF/F selections, split about 50% SF and 50% F.  (And when I say cases, I mean 6&#039;x20&#039; each.)  Yes, it has Terry Pratchett and Tolkien, but it also has plenty of SF writers, new and old.

Then there is the YA SF/F section that is by itself another ~8&#039;x16&#039; bookcase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MarkHB@74:  As much as some people hate the big-box booksellers, I have to say the Borders I go to has three full cases of SF/F selections, split about 50% SF and 50% F.  (And when I say cases, I mean 6&#8242;x20&#8242; each.)  Yes, it has Terry Pratchett and Tolkien, but it also has plenty of SF writers, new and old.</p>
<p>Then there is the YA SF/F section that is by itself another ~8&#8242;x16&#8242; bookcase.</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;ytimynonaon&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;I love how George Lucas needs no explanation.&lt;/i&gt;

I love how George Lucas&#039;s explanation was simply (George Lucas), which was much funnier than simply not giving him a parenthetical at all. And that kind of humor is why I find both John Scalzi and Wil Wheaton hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>ytimynonaon</b> <i>I love how George Lucas needs no explanation.</i></p>
<p>I love how George Lucas&#8217;s explanation was simply (George Lucas), which was much funnier than simply not giving him a parenthetical at all. And that kind of humor is why I find both John Scalzi and Wil Wheaton hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Berry who is Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berry who is Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But not the Berry in #16.

Okay, so Beyonce has a cyborg hand.  Yes, that&#039;s pretty cool.  

Kanye . . . I likes me some Kanye West, but I agree with earlier posts re: how much Autotune helps the guy.  

And 808s and Heartbreak is definitely on the To Buy list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But not the Berry in #16.</p>
<p>Okay, so Beyonce has a cyborg hand.  Yes, that&#8217;s pretty cool.  </p>
<p>Kanye . . . I likes me some Kanye West, but I agree with earlier posts re: how much Autotune helps the guy.  </p>
<p>And 808s and Heartbreak is definitely on the To Buy list.</p>
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		<title>By: sng</title>
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		<dc:creator>sng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the general subject of SF in music. If you don&#039;t know who the Epoxies are you want to solve that problem. Like now. 

Stop The Future is a wonderfully dystopian vision set to some really awesome new wave/post punk. And the self titled album is nearly that cool. Linking to We&#039;re So Small a love song set at the start of a nuclear war. Pure Win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZWc4p5z-J0&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the general subject of SF in music. If you don&#8217;t know who the Epoxies are you want to solve that problem. Like now. </p>
<p>Stop The Future is a wonderfully dystopian vision set to some really awesome new wave/post punk. And the self titled album is nearly that cool. Linking to We&#8217;re So Small a love song set at the start of a nuclear war. Pure Win.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/12/15/when-a-power-list-isnt/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/oZWc4p5z-J0/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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