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		<title>By: John Scalzi</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-131887</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Scalzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[plutosdad:

&quot;Yes, but what about 10 years from now, will computer generated voices be much better? Perhaps still not as good as a human, but maybe good enough for the average person?&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/27/the-panic-about-kindles-text-to-speech-still-silly/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plutosdad:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, but what about 10 years from now, will computer generated voices be much better? Perhaps still not as good as a human, but maybe good enough for the average person?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/27/the-panic-about-kindles-text-to-speech-still-silly/" rel="nofollow">No.</a></p>
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		<title>By: plutosdad</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-131886</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to add one more thing, as Lexie points out above about monotone being the best for helping you hear it the way you hear it in your head. When you are helping an actor by reading lines to him so he can practice his own lines, you do the same thing: read it neutrally without inflection or emotion. That is the best way for him to remember his lines and react the way his character would, instead of reacting to your reading, then getting on stage and having the actual actor read it completely differently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add one more thing, as Lexie points out above about monotone being the best for helping you hear it the way you hear it in your head. When you are helping an actor by reading lines to him so he can practice his own lines, you do the same thing: read it neutrally without inflection or emotion. That is the best way for him to remember his lines and react the way his character would, instead of reacting to your reading, then getting on stage and having the actual actor read it completely differently.</p>
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		<title>By: plutosdad</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-131884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[plutosdad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the idea that the computer generated monotone of the Kindle2 is going to be any kind of competitor to the Audio book is preposterous.&quot;

Yes, but what about 10 years from now, will computer generated voices be much better? Perhaps still not as good as a human, but maybe good enough for the average person?
It&#039;s like the difference between mp3s and lossless compression. I can tell the difference on some types of music, and so can many musicians. But the average person can&#039;t, and mp3 is just fine with them.

So it&#039;s not so much about the Kindle 2, but really more about setting a precedent that will be enforced as technology matures. Someday, computer generated voices WILL be good enough to make a human reading a book be not worth the expense. That is what the argument is about.

Now, is that something to be concerned about? Maybe not, maybe it&#039;s just a licensing issue. Or maybe too much licensing would kill off the technology before it starts up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the idea that the computer generated monotone of the Kindle2 is going to be any kind of competitor to the Audio book is preposterous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but what about 10 years from now, will computer generated voices be much better? Perhaps still not as good as a human, but maybe good enough for the average person?<br />
It&#8217;s like the difference between mp3s and lossless compression. I can tell the difference on some types of music, and so can many musicians. But the average person can&#8217;t, and mp3 is just fine with them.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not so much about the Kindle 2, but really more about setting a precedent that will be enforced as technology matures. Someday, computer generated voices WILL be good enough to make a human reading a book be not worth the expense. That is what the argument is about.</p>
<p>Now, is that something to be concerned about? Maybe not, maybe it&#8217;s just a licensing issue. Or maybe too much licensing would kill off the technology before it starts up.</p>
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		<title>By: John K</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-131478</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My reading of the Blount piece wasn&#039;t that he actually wanted Amazon to stop allowing people to have it read books aloud, it was that he wanted to readdress the licensing fees paid for ebooks to include licensing for audio.

Honestly, that doesn&#039;t pain me all that much.

I do think that if his intent was about licensing fees, it was a poor forum to do it in (industry internal issue vs consumer issue)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reading of the Blount piece wasn&#8217;t that he actually wanted Amazon to stop allowing people to have it read books aloud, it was that he wanted to readdress the licensing fees paid for ebooks to include licensing for audio.</p>
<p>Honestly, that doesn&#8217;t pain me all that much.</p>
<p>I do think that if his intent was about licensing fees, it was a poor forum to do it in (industry internal issue vs consumer issue)</p>
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		<title>By: David E</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-129583</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;
Reading a novel using text-to-speech does sound like a manifestly bad idea. 
&lt;/b&gt;

I read ebooks that way frequently.  I know, to someone who hasn&#039;t tried it and is probably expecting some atrociously toneless voice, this might seem strange.

But I&#039;ve found that some text to speech software actually creates a reasonably decent sounding voice that&#039;s a lot better sounding than the often bad readings I&#039;ve encountered in many audiobooks.  I recently tryed to listen to an audiobook version of THE HOST by Stephanie Meyers and even if I&#039;d liked the book, which I didn&#039;t, I wouldn&#039;t have been able to sit through the horrible,exaggerated and often totally inappropriate-to-the-character voices the reader did for different characters.

We forget that when we look at the page and read in our minds that nuances of tone aren&#039;t there on the page---our imaginations add them.

And with a decent text to speech voice which is not as far from a real voice as you&#039;d probably think I find my imagination has no more trouble adding in the nuances than it does when I look at printed text.

As to WHY I read them that way, I&#039;m a painter and like to listen to books whiling I&#039;m working---of course I read books the typical way lots too---as my straining book shelves will attest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><br />
Reading a novel using text-to-speech does sound like a manifestly bad idea.<br />
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<p>I read ebooks that way frequently.  I know, to someone who hasn&#8217;t tried it and is probably expecting some atrociously toneless voice, this might seem strange.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve found that some text to speech software actually creates a reasonably decent sounding voice that&#8217;s a lot better sounding than the often bad readings I&#8217;ve encountered in many audiobooks.  I recently tryed to listen to an audiobook version of THE HOST by Stephanie Meyers and even if I&#8217;d liked the book, which I didn&#8217;t, I wouldn&#8217;t have been able to sit through the horrible,exaggerated and often totally inappropriate-to-the-character voices the reader did for different characters.</p>
<p>We forget that when we look at the page and read in our minds that nuances of tone aren&#8217;t there on the page&#8212;our imaginations add them.</p>
<p>And with a decent text to speech voice which is not as far from a real voice as you&#8217;d probably think I find my imagination has no more trouble adding in the nuances than it does when I look at printed text.</p>
<p>As to WHY I read them that way, I&#8217;m a painter and like to listen to books whiling I&#8217;m working&#8212;of course I read books the typical way lots too&#8212;as my straining book shelves will attest.</p>
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		<title>By: David S.</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-129517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jessica @ 28, Kindle&#039;s different because it&#039;s the first ebook reader that has text-to-speech enabled for in-copyright works. All other ebook readers/stores have always disabled text-to-speech (aka read aloud) features for protected (i.e. DRMed/in-copyright) books. 

Kindle&#039;s not the first ebook reader to have text-to-speech (not by a long shot), but Amazon grabbed the tiger by the tail by enabling it without checking with the copyright owners first. It&#039;ll be interesting to see if they take the Authors Guild on in court or not (Amazon can presumably afford more lawyers than small outfits like Fictionwise, MobiPocket, eBooks.com, etc.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica @ 28, Kindle&#8217;s different because it&#8217;s the first ebook reader that has text-to-speech enabled for in-copyright works. All other ebook readers/stores have always disabled text-to-speech (aka read aloud) features for protected (i.e. DRMed/in-copyright) books. </p>
<p>Kindle&#8217;s not the first ebook reader to have text-to-speech (not by a long shot), but Amazon grabbed the tiger by the tail by enabling it without checking with the copyright owners first. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see if they take the Authors Guild on in court or not (Amazon can presumably afford more lawyers than small outfits like Fictionwise, MobiPocket, eBooks.com, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: watercolor</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-129509</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My word.  Do the people in that article not live in the real world?  I can&#039;t remember the last time I went to lunch with someone and just expected they would pay.  These people need a character rewiring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My word.  Do the people in that article not live in the real world?  I can&#8217;t remember the last time I went to lunch with someone and just expected they would pay.  These people need a character rewiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-129508</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am tired and ready to leave NY for a few weeks.  I&#039;m also having a hard time keeping up with my theme.  

While you&#039;re in New York, try Molly&#039;s Pub &amp; Shebeen on 21st and Third Ave for the best burger in the city.  Seriously.  The best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am tired and ready to leave NY for a few weeks.  I&#8217;m also having a hard time keeping up with my theme.  </p>
<p>While you&#8217;re in New York, try Molly&#8217;s Pub &amp; Shebeen on 21st and Third Ave for the best burger in the city.  Seriously.  The best.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-129507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading a novel using text-to-speech does sound like a manifestly bad idea. But having a Kindle read, say, the top stories from the Wall Street Journal as you drive to work? Not so silly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading a novel using text-to-speech does sound like a manifestly bad idea. But having a Kindle read, say, the top stories from the Wall Street Journal as you drive to work? Not so silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexie</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/02/11/hello/#comment-129504</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking as a blind person who reads books in bland computerized voice, and my blind friend right here seconds this...we by far prefer computerized voice to live audio readers.

Now, granted, some audio readers are vastly better than others, but we&#039;d rather just have the neutral voice so we can interpret ourselves. It can get quite hokey with others reading, and most importantly, it makes it easier to make the computer voice go fast fast fast, which is how we usually read. You can speed up live audio, of course, but everyone ends up sounding like a chipmunk. 

If you can&#039;t read the book with your eyes and thus form your own interpretation of the book, a neutral computerized voice is the next best thing to your own &quot;inside your head&quot; book reading voice. 

Anyway, I&#039;m glad kindle is going audio, it helps us a lot. And then we have more of a choice as to read via a real person or computer. To me, this seems like access, not a copyright violation, as before we did not have access to kindle books at all, and they are quite a bit cheaper than audio books. It is nice to get first run books without having to wait for audio or library for the blind to get around to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a blind person who reads books in bland computerized voice, and my blind friend right here seconds this&#8230;we by far prefer computerized voice to live audio readers.</p>
<p>Now, granted, some audio readers are vastly better than others, but we&#8217;d rather just have the neutral voice so we can interpret ourselves. It can get quite hokey with others reading, and most importantly, it makes it easier to make the computer voice go fast fast fast, which is how we usually read. You can speed up live audio, of course, but everyone ends up sounding like a chipmunk. </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t read the book with your eyes and thus form your own interpretation of the book, a neutral computerized voice is the next best thing to your own &#8220;inside your head&#8221; book reading voice. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad kindle is going audio, it helps us a lot. And then we have more of a choice as to read via a real person or computer. To me, this seems like access, not a copyright violation, as before we did not have access to kindle books at all, and they are quite a bit cheaper than audio books. It is nice to get first run books without having to wait for audio or library for the blind to get around to them.</p>
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