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		<title>By: bobbyB</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/05/05/zoes-tale-french-cover/#comment-144531</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is some awesome cover art.

I really wish American Sci-Fi covers were as interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is some awesome cover art.</p>
<p>I really wish American Sci-Fi covers were as interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Burnap</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/05/05/zoes-tale-french-cover/#comment-144478</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Burnap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own personal cover horror story: Decades ago, I wrote a book on the Forth programming language.  I think I called it something unoriginal like &quot;The Forth Programming Language&quot;.  When I finally saw the actual book, I discovered that it had been renamed &quot;Fourth: The Fourth Generation Language&quot;.  Not only did they imply that the language was something it entirely wasn&#039;t (A &quot;Fourth Generation Language&quot; is something with a definition, and that definition does not fit Forth) but they also misspelled the subject of the book.

The first problem was never fixed, but they made little stickers to fix the second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own personal cover horror story: Decades ago, I wrote a book on the Forth programming language.  I think I called it something unoriginal like &#8220;The Forth Programming Language&#8221;.  When I finally saw the actual book, I discovered that it had been renamed &#8220;Fourth: The Fourth Generation Language&#8221;.  Not only did they imply that the language was something it entirely wasn&#8217;t (A &#8220;Fourth Generation Language&#8221; is something with a definition, and that definition does not fit Forth) but they also misspelled the subject of the book.</p>
<p>The first problem was never fixed, but they made little stickers to fix the second.</p>
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		<title>By: John Scalzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Scalzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.</description>
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		<title>By: Burns!</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/05/05/zoes-tale-french-cover/#comment-144366</link>
		<dc:creator>Burns!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m the only one who looked at that cover and at first glance thought, &quot;Jar Jar?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m the only one who looked at that cover and at first glance thought, &#8220;Jar Jar?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/05/05/zoes-tale-french-cover/#comment-144330</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh Jasper.

Thanks. Interesting links and discussions. Just from my long history of visiting bookstores, I&#039;ve seen various cover fads come and go-- not so much at the houses that specialize in sf/fantasy, but the &quot;major&quot; publishers. I was curious about that whole aspect of publishing and I wondered about the acuracy of the marketers predictions of what sells versus what inspires readers to pick up a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh Jasper.</p>
<p>Thanks. Interesting links and discussions. Just from my long history of visiting bookstores, I&#8217;ve seen various cover fads come and go&#8211; not so much at the houses that specialize in sf/fantasy, but the &#8220;major&#8221; publishers. I was curious about that whole aspect of publishing and I wondered about the acuracy of the marketers predictions of what sells versus what inspires readers to pick up a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joyce,  major publishers have an art department that talks with the editing and marketing teams.  Irene Gallo over at TOR (John&#039;s publisher) does a stellar job (pun intended).  You can guess who the expected buyer is for John&#039;s books because of the cover, and the art is still good.  

Personally, I prefer less of a spacewar type cover, but I respect what TOR is doing because the art is telling the prospective buyer that the books might appeal to them because other books they know of had similar covers with impressionistic colored space battles.  This is why John Harris is on more covers than  Donato (which is on my edition.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.denversfbookclub.com/scalzi.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you can see both covers here&lt;/a&gt;) .  I  like the Donato better, but I&#039;d wager that the Harris is more marketable.  Not that Donato isn&#039;t marketable.  He did a great run for Mike Resnick, to the point where, if I see a guy who&#039;s not in uniform toting a gun and looking bad ass, and it&#039;s Donato&#039;s style, I figure it&#039;s probably  a Resnick, or someone like him.

John Harris did the covers for what&#039;s probably the most recognizable edition of Ender&#039;s Game.  You can read about why Irene Gallo like Harris&#039; work so much &lt;a href=&quot;http://igallo.blogspot.com/2007/01/thumbnails-john-harris.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and her general feelings on cover art and what &quot;sells&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://igallo.blogspot.com/2008/03/judging-books-by-covers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce,  major publishers have an art department that talks with the editing and marketing teams.  Irene Gallo over at TOR (John&#8217;s publisher) does a stellar job (pun intended).  You can guess who the expected buyer is for John&#8217;s books because of the cover, and the art is still good.  </p>
<p>Personally, I prefer less of a spacewar type cover, but I respect what TOR is doing because the art is telling the prospective buyer that the books might appeal to them because other books they know of had similar covers with impressionistic colored space battles.  This is why John Harris is on more covers than  Donato (which is on my edition.  <a href="http://www.denversfbookclub.com/scalzi.htm" rel="nofollow">you can see both covers here</a>) .  I  like the Donato better, but I&#8217;d wager that the Harris is more marketable.  Not that Donato isn&#8217;t marketable.  He did a great run for Mike Resnick, to the point where, if I see a guy who&#8217;s not in uniform toting a gun and looking bad ass, and it&#8217;s Donato&#8217;s style, I figure it&#8217;s probably  a Resnick, or someone like him.</p>
<p>John Harris did the covers for what&#8217;s probably the most recognizable edition of Ender&#8217;s Game.  You can read about why Irene Gallo like Harris&#8217; work so much <a href="http://igallo.blogspot.com/2007/01/thumbnails-john-harris.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and her general feelings on cover art and what &#8220;sells&#8221; <a href="http://igallo.blogspot.com/2008/03/judging-books-by-covers.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Authors generally have no control whatsoever.&quot; That explains many really horrible book covers I&#039;ve seen. One would hope the marketing people would at least have some idea of what the book might be about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Authors generally have no control whatsoever.&#8221; That explains many really horrible book covers I&#8217;ve seen. One would hope the marketing people would at least have some idea of what the book might be about.</p>
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		<title>By: Bozo the Clone</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/05/05/zoes-tale-french-cover/#comment-144282</link>
		<dc:creator>Bozo the Clone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that they translate &quot;Old Man&#039;s War&quot; as &quot;Old Man and the War&quot;. Nice to have a Hemingway allusion on your cover too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that they translate &#8220;Old Man&#8217;s War&#8221; as &#8220;Old Man and the War&#8221;. Nice to have a Hemingway allusion on your cover too.</p>
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		<title>By: John Scalzi</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/05/05/zoes-tale-french-cover/#comment-144270</link>
		<dc:creator>John Scalzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Authors generally have no control whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Authors generally have no control whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anne KG Murphy. Unfortunately, my daughter&#039;s charter school doesn&#039;t teach French. They offer Spanish and Latin, Stephanie takes Latin (I&#039;m currently imagining what a Latin cover might look like.) Hmmm... perhaps I could donate a copy or two to the public high schools. 

BTW my daughter pronounced the cover &quot;Very cool!&quot; 

John, I&#039;ve been meaning to ask:  Do authors have any control over the covers of their books or is it whatever the marketing department of publisher decides?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anne KG Murphy. Unfortunately, my daughter&#8217;s charter school doesn&#8217;t teach French. They offer Spanish and Latin, Stephanie takes Latin (I&#8217;m currently imagining what a Latin cover might look like.) Hmmm&#8230; perhaps I could donate a copy or two to the public high schools. </p>
<p>BTW my daughter pronounced the cover &#8220;Very cool!&#8221; </p>
<p>John, I&#8217;ve been meaning to ask:  Do authors have any control over the covers of their books or is it whatever the marketing department of publisher decides?</p>
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