Comments on: And Yes, In Fact, While We’re On the Subject of “The Big Three” http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/ DEVISING A SYSTEM FOR REMEMBERING EVERYTHING Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:32:33 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Brad R. Torgersen http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-183059 Brad R. Torgersen Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:47:09 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-183059 [Deleted -- Brad, when you're kicked off a thread, it means you're not allowed back on it, even months later. Also, congratulations -- JS] [Deleted -- Brad, when you're kicked off a thread, it means you're not allowed back on it, even months later. Also, congratulations -- JS]

]]> By: Andy http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-162336 Andy Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:13:35 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-162336 I think the situation in which these 3 magazines find themselves is such a contradiction in itself that the point is beyond any justification. I mean, the fact that they are SCIENCE FICTION magazines and that they choose to use anything else that the state-of-the-art-science is simply impossible to justify. like the expression states clear enouth, the state-of-the-art means the more advance method in several (if not all) aspects. What I, and others, really need is the adresses of the top 10 Sci-fi magazines that do accept electronic submissions, because sending to these, and not to them, is the only way of making the truth clear to some people. in other words, using "force". I think the situation in which these 3 magazines find themselves is such a contradiction in itself that the point is beyond any justification. I mean, the fact that they are SCIENCE FICTION magazines and that they choose to use anything else that the state-of-the-art-science is simply impossible to justify. like the expression states clear enouth, the state-of-the-art means the more advance method in several (if not all) aspects. What I, and others, really need is the adresses of the top 10 Sci-fi magazines that do accept electronic submissions, because sending to these, and not to them, is the only way of making the truth clear to some people. in other words, using “force”.

]]> By: Molly http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-159150 Molly Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:50:18 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-159150 For the 2009 Hugo voting, "A total of 1074 valid ballots were received, 34 by mail." I wonder how many of those 34 were staff from the Big Three... ;) For the 2009 Hugo voting, “A total of 1074 valid
ballots were received, 34 by mail.” I wonder how many of those 34 were staff from the Big Three… ;)

]]> By: Jonathan Vos Post http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-155938 Jonathan Vos Post Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:00:23 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-155938 I could not find in 15 minutes of Googling the current SFWA Membership Committee list of official "Major Markets." I have a literal stack of manuscripts rejected by all of The Big Three, with Envelopes stuffed with SASEs, needing only editorial addresses. It's my way of stimulating the economy. If I get another rejection letter for my collection (which fills a big part of my garage and overflows into a shed) then I've stimulated via the Postal Service. If I get a check in the mail (as has happened to me several hundred times), then I'll stimulate by buying bigger ticket items than stamps. Clarkesworld is at or near the top of Beyond the Big 3, because they do take online submissions, and do pay 10 cents/word. This is a good thread. Don't want to get into the swamp of agented versus unagented, which is also (seems to me) far from efficient. Good Agents are wonderful. But many readers of this thread may be in the catch-22: How do I get an agent? Easy, once an editor has made an offer. How do I get an editor to make an offer? Easy. Have your agent make the submission. I could not find in 15 minutes of Googling the current SFWA Membership Committee list of official “Major Markets.”

I have a literal stack of manuscripts rejected by all of The Big Three, with Envelopes stuffed with SASEs, needing only editorial addresses. It’s my way of stimulating the economy. If I get another rejection letter for my collection (which fills a big part of my garage and overflows into a shed) then I’ve stimulated via the Postal Service. If I get a check in the mail (as has happened to me several hundred times), then I’ll stimulate by buying bigger ticket items than stamps.

Clarkesworld is at or near the top of Beyond the Big 3, because they do take online submissions, and do pay 10 cents/word.

This is a good thread. Don’t want to get into the swamp of agented versus unagented, which is also (seems to me) far from efficient. Good Agents are wonderful. But many readers of this thread may be in the catch-22: How do I get an agent? Easy, once an editor has made an offer. How do I get an editor to make an offer? Easy. Have your agent make the submission.

]]> By: Tim Walker http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-154177 Tim Walker Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:40:52 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-154177 John, may I play guitar in "Gordon's Caliper"? John, may I play guitar in “Gordon’s Caliper”?

]]> By: Denni http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-154176 Denni Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:28:49 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-154176 [EDIT: my apologies--that should have been mythago@176!] [EDIT: my apologies--that should have been mythago@176!]

]]> By: Denni http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-154175 Denni Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:26:02 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-154175 Alastair@182: OpenOffice does not support RTF, that's a fallacy. They just pretend that they do. I got a (generally positive) reply from an editor who remarked that the ms was difficult to read because there were no line breaks or paragraph indents (let alone headers or page numbers). I'd formatted it in SMF, made sure that it looked spiffy in Oo and sent it off in good faith. Imagine my dismay when I subsequently re-opened the thing in M$ Word! If you're using Oo, you're better off with doc format. Actually, I'm happiest submitting hardcopy since I won't have to worry about what the thing ends up looking like at the editor's end. Go figure! I won't install Word on my computer though. Alastair@182: OpenOffice does not support RTF, that’s a fallacy. They just pretend that they do.

I got a (generally positive) reply from an editor who remarked that the ms was difficult to read because there were no line breaks or paragraph indents (let alone headers or page numbers). I’d formatted it in SMF, made sure that it looked spiffy in Oo and sent it off in good faith.

Imagine my dismay when I subsequently re-opened the thing in M$ Word!

If you’re using Oo, you’re better off with doc format. Actually, I’m happiest submitting hardcopy since I won’t have to worry about what the thing ends up looking like at the editor’s end. Go figure!

I won’t install Word on my computer though.

]]> By: Rob Darnell http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-154118 Rob Darnell Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:52:17 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-154118 $30 for a hard copy? Looks like the yearly hard copies are $19.99, at least that's what the site shows, if you wanted to subscribe. Monthly subscriptions to the site $5.99 and I think that's decent. :) $30 for a hard copy? Looks like the yearly hard copies are $19.99, at least that’s what the site shows, if you wanted to subscribe.

Monthly subscriptions to the site $5.99 and I think that’s decent. :)

]]> By: Jacob http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-154115 Jacob Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:39:18 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-154115 The exchange above – person has opinion, person is pointed towards source, person reads source and changes opinion based on new data – made me very happy. The exchange above – person has opinion, person is pointed towards source, person reads source and changes opinion based on new data – made me very happy.

]]> By: opinionbubba http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/and-yes-in-fact-while-were-on-the-subject-of-the-big-three/#comment-154113 opinionbubba Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:27:12 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=7883#comment-154113 Uh-huh, 2010 Writer's Market list price about $30 for hard copy, $7 a month for online subscription, free seven-day trial period. I guess it's okay to buy hard copy if the interested buyer saves money and finds the medium more convenient. Heck and all, even R.R. Bowker's _Books in Print_ is available online anymore, for a price. Uh-huh, 2010 Writer’s Market list price about $30 for hard copy, $7 a month for online subscription, free seven-day trial period. I guess it’s okay to buy hard copy if the interested buyer saves money and finds the medium more convenient. Heck and all, even R.R. Bowker’s _Books in Print_ is available online anymore, for a price.

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