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	<title>Comments on: Dear Writers: For God&#8217;s Sake, Don&#8217;t Assume You&#8217;ll Get Paid</title>
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		<title>By: Arachne Jericho</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/07/03/dear-writers-for-gods-sake-dont-assume-youll-get-paid/#comment-153854</link>
		<dc:creator>Arachne Jericho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I think people underestimate the haphazardness of accounting systems in publishing when it comes to royalty checks. 

Think of their systems as being like the worse cable billing system in the world, except in reverse.  Meanwhile, wolves are drinking tea in the living room and making crude remarks about the wallpaper.  

Do a Google search for &quot;late royalties&quot; and you will find some nice horror stories (such as: numbers didn&#039;t add up, AND the royalties were later than they usually are by three months). 

I have no idea if it&#039;s malevolence (keep writers underpaid so the publishing company survives) or incompetence, but it definitely exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I think people underestimate the haphazardness of accounting systems in publishing when it comes to royalty checks. </p>
<p>Think of their systems as being like the worse cable billing system in the world, except in reverse.  Meanwhile, wolves are drinking tea in the living room and making crude remarks about the wallpaper.  </p>
<p>Do a Google search for &#8220;late royalties&#8221; and you will find some nice horror stories (such as: numbers didn&#8217;t add up, AND the royalties were later than they usually are by three months). </p>
<p>I have no idea if it&#8217;s malevolence (keep writers underpaid so the publishing company survives) or incompetence, but it definitely exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;better to have the money up front in most cases.&lt;/em&gt;

This is a general rule, called the &quot;time value of money&quot; rule.  But it&#039;s especially true in publishing, where royalty checks are notoriously slow in coming, or even uncertain. (Not as bad as in the recording industry, where if your album doesn&#039;t sell well enough you can actually get a BILL from the &lt;strike&gt;godsdamned giant ripoff organization&lt;/strike&gt; recording company!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>better to have the money up front in most cases.</em></p>
<p>This is a general rule, called the &#8220;time value of money&#8221; rule.  But it&#8217;s especially true in publishing, where royalty checks are notoriously slow in coming, or even uncertain. (Not as bad as in the recording industry, where if your album doesn&#8217;t sell well enough you can actually get a BILL from the <strike>godsdamned giant ripoff organization</strike> recording company!)</p>
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		<title>By: John Scalzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Scalzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spherical Time:

&quot;shouldn’t it be assumed that all new writers have jobs that have supported them for the intervening decade?&quot;

No. Lots of new writers quit their jobs to write full time, or go part time to have more time to write, lowering their income/benefits level substantially. 

It&#039;s also to the point that many writers who do have full-time jobs don&#039;t have full-time jobs that pay well enough for them to comfortably put off a sure amount of income now for a larger slice of a &lt;i&gt;potential&lt;/i&gt; pie a year or more down the road (which is when royalty income would start coming in). 

Finally, there is this recession thing going on. Lots of writers might have had jobs before and don&#039;t have them now. 

&quot;If you sell a few books and they sell, that will get you to the point of living off your books faster than if you get advances.&quot;

No, you don&#039;t. If you sell a few books and you sell, your advances should commensurately go up, and advances, almost by the very definition of the world, get to author quicker. 

Note that advances are not generally offered by plucking a random number out of the air; they&#039;re calculated by the publisher considering how many of your books they&#039;re likely to sell over the life of the book, applied to the royalty rate. Basically you get paid in an advance what your publisher thinks you&#039;d make anyway, stretched out over years. In which case, better to have the money up front in most cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spherical Time:</p>
<p>&#8220;shouldn’t it be assumed that all new writers have jobs that have supported them for the intervening decade?&#8221;</p>
<p>No. Lots of new writers quit their jobs to write full time, or go part time to have more time to write, lowering their income/benefits level substantially. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also to the point that many writers who do have full-time jobs don&#8217;t have full-time jobs that pay well enough for them to comfortably put off a sure amount of income now for a larger slice of a <i>potential</i> pie a year or more down the road (which is when royalty income would start coming in). </p>
<p>Finally, there is this recession thing going on. Lots of writers might have had jobs before and don&#8217;t have them now. </p>
<p>&#8220;If you sell a few books and they sell, that will get you to the point of living off your books faster than if you get advances.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, you don&#8217;t. If you sell a few books and you sell, your advances should commensurately go up, and advances, almost by the very definition of the world, get to author quicker. </p>
<p>Note that advances are not generally offered by plucking a random number out of the air; they&#8217;re calculated by the publisher considering how many of your books they&#8217;re likely to sell over the life of the book, applied to the royalty rate. Basically you get paid in an advance what your publisher thinks you&#8217;d make anyway, stretched out over years. In which case, better to have the money up front in most cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Spherical Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spherical Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh . . . about your point a.  Why shouldn&#039;t we want a bigger percentage of the royalties?  I mean, considering that no one just breaks into authoring novels in a few months, shouldn&#039;t it be assumed that &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; new writers have jobs that have supported them for the intervening decade?

And it&#039;s rarely the first book that allows someone to quit their job. Isn&#039;t it usually a few books later?

So, why not want a bigger chunk of the change?  If you sell a few books and they sell, that will get you to the point of living off your books faster than if you get advances.

And speaking of which, wasn&#039;t that sort of what you did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh . . . about your point a.  Why shouldn&#8217;t we want a bigger percentage of the royalties?  I mean, considering that no one just breaks into authoring novels in a few months, shouldn&#8217;t it be assumed that <i>all</i> new writers have jobs that have supported them for the intervening decade?</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s rarely the first book that allows someone to quit their job. Isn&#8217;t it usually a few books later?</p>
<p>So, why not want a bigger chunk of the change?  If you sell a few books and they sell, that will get you to the point of living off your books faster than if you get advances.</p>
<p>And speaking of which, wasn&#8217;t that sort of what you did?</p>
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		<title>By: Network Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Network Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, yeah, this all pretty much goes for any &quot;creatives&quot;.  I have a friend who&#039;s a big-time artist, shows in L.A., Berlin, New York, etc. who&#039;s always raising eyebrows because he doesn&#039;t let the business end of the art business slip.  Frankly, it&#039;s one of the reasons I like him.  He makes great art but he can pay for lunch half the time, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, yeah, this all pretty much goes for any &#8220;creatives&#8221;.  I have a friend who&#8217;s a big-time artist, shows in L.A., Berlin, New York, etc. who&#8217;s always raising eyebrows because he doesn&#8217;t let the business end of the art business slip.  Frankly, it&#8217;s one of the reasons I like him.  He makes great art but he can pay for lunch half the time, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Herzleid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herzleid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same goes for translation, which is my main industry. All too often I get queries for translation projects to which I send my standard info mail with the subject fields I specialize in, average word count per day, and, of course, my rates for translation, proofreading, editing, DTP etc. 

All too often I receive a &quot;Oh we can&#039;t pay you, there&#039;s no budget for that. But this is a great opportunity, you will get lots of experience&quot;.  Yeah, thanks. Then it&#039;s ok with you that I give priority to all my paying clients and get your work done by, say, never? Is never good for you? Good.

I&#039;m suddenly reminded of Poetry.com &quot;contests&quot; where your reward is you get to buy your own prize! :D yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same goes for translation, which is my main industry. All too often I get queries for translation projects to which I send my standard info mail with the subject fields I specialize in, average word count per day, and, of course, my rates for translation, proofreading, editing, DTP etc. </p>
<p>All too often I receive a &#8220;Oh we can&#8217;t pay you, there&#8217;s no budget for that. But this is a great opportunity, you will get lots of experience&#8221;.  Yeah, thanks. Then it&#8217;s ok with you that I give priority to all my paying clients and get your work done by, say, never? Is never good for you? Good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m suddenly reminded of Poetry.com &#8220;contests&#8221; where your reward is you get to buy your own prize! :D yay!</p>
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		<title>By: John Scalzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Scalzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent.

(steeples fingers, Monty Burns style)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent.</p>
<p>(steeples fingers, Monty Burns style)</p>
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		<title>By: Laird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF you on, Scalzi? That&#039;s going to be a blurb on my next book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF you on, Scalzi? That&#8217;s going to be a blurb on my next book.</p>
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		<title>By: John Scalzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Scalzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am already, Laird. Shhhh. Don&#039;t tell.

(And actually, I do like your writing. Have &lt;em&gt;Imago Sequence&lt;/em&gt; on the shelf here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am already, Laird. Shhhh. Don&#8217;t tell.</p>
<p>(And actually, I do like your writing. Have <em>Imago Sequence</em> on the shelf here)</p>
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		<title>By: Laird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. Thanks (sincerely) for the thought. But I wasn&#039;t crying into my pillow. When one of the screenplays of my stories gets picked up by Paramount you&#039;ll be in line to become a fan on my Facebook page. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. Thanks (sincerely) for the thought. But I wasn&#8217;t crying into my pillow. When one of the screenplays of my stories gets picked up by Paramount you&#8217;ll be in line to become a fan on my Facebook page. ;)</p>
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