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	<title>Comments on: The Big Idea: C.L. Anderson</title>
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	<description>WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON OUR HUMILITY</description>
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		<title>By: Ilya</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-196356</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;In short, a real, genuine, long-term peace would be a complex, dynamic situation that would have to be constantly maintained. Real peace would require law enforcement, diplomacy, and intelligence services. Real peace might get mistaken for weakness by people who look at places like say, Switzerland and see the cuckoo clocks and the chocolate and don’t see the universal required militia service, and it would have to have plans and training in place to deal with people who might make the mistake of trying to muscle in on its territory.&lt;/b&gt;

It is possible, but is a long-term unstable situation. Peace as posited by C.L. Anderson requires constant maintenance by dedicated AND competent people. Sooner or later either corruption or laziness will spoil things. Not necessarily on large enough scale to cause an all-out war -- in fact, a small breakdown leading to a localized conflict is far more likely, -- but here is the kicker: &lt;i&gt;the longer is the period without breakdowns, the bigger is a breakdown when it does come&lt;/i&gt;. The longer peace lasts without obvious problems, the more time there is for &quot;watchers&quot; to become complacent, stuck in routine, or used to &quot;skim off the top&quot; because &quot;nobody will notice&quot;. And hence the bigger is the crash. 

Which is very similar to earthquakes and stock market crashes -- the system is mostly stable, small adjustments happen fairly often, and the bigger &quot;adjustment&quot; is, the less often it occurs. Problem is, given enough time really big &quot;adjustments&quot; are inevitable. AKA, war IS inevitable, it may just take a long time for before it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>In short, a real, genuine, long-term peace would be a complex, dynamic situation that would have to be constantly maintained. Real peace would require law enforcement, diplomacy, and intelligence services. Real peace might get mistaken for weakness by people who look at places like say, Switzerland and see the cuckoo clocks and the chocolate and don’t see the universal required militia service, and it would have to have plans and training in place to deal with people who might make the mistake of trying to muscle in on its territory.</b></p>
<p>It is possible, but is a long-term unstable situation. Peace as posited by C.L. Anderson requires constant maintenance by dedicated AND competent people. Sooner or later either corruption or laziness will spoil things. Not necessarily on large enough scale to cause an all-out war &#8212; in fact, a small breakdown leading to a localized conflict is far more likely, &#8212; but here is the kicker: <i>the longer is the period without breakdowns, the bigger is a breakdown when it does come</i>. The longer peace lasts without obvious problems, the more time there is for &#8220;watchers&#8221; to become complacent, stuck in routine, or used to &#8220;skim off the top&#8221; because &#8220;nobody will notice&#8221;. And hence the bigger is the crash. </p>
<p>Which is very similar to earthquakes and stock market crashes &#8212; the system is mostly stable, small adjustments happen fairly often, and the bigger &#8220;adjustment&#8221; is, the less often it occurs. Problem is, given enough time really big &#8220;adjustments&#8221; are inevitable. AKA, war IS inevitable, it may just take a long time for before it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-169796</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished the book.  Bravo!  I was very impressed by the way you brought everything together in the grand finale (and surprised me with what was _really_ going on!).  Effective use of point of view, too.  (especially in the very last scene) Amazing book.

Thank you Scalzi for featuring this book - never would have picked it up otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished the book.  Bravo!  I was very impressed by the way you brought everything together in the grand finale (and surprised me with what was _really_ going on!).  Effective use of point of view, too.  (especially in the very last scene) Amazing book.</p>
<p>Thank you Scalzi for featuring this book &#8211; never would have picked it up otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: carolynanderson09</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-166005</link>
		<dc:creator>carolynanderson09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! 

Although you could do a lot worse than seeking out more by CL Moore.  I highly recommend &quot;No Woman Born&quot; and &quot;Shambleu.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! </p>
<p>Although you could do a lot worse than seeking out more by CL Moore.  I highly recommend &#8220;No Woman Born&#8221; and &#8220;Shambleu.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Teufel</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-165226</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Teufel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean CL Anderson!

(I&#039;m a doofus, sorry!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean CL Anderson!</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m a doofus, sorry!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Teufel</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-165189</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Teufel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading this now, based on this article. One thing that hasn&#039;t been emphasised is how good the characterisation is in this novel. The author has given most of the characters a family to worry about; and suddenly, even across cultural gulfs you can see the characters as human. I&#039;m already glad I bought this, and I haven&#039;t finished yet.

I&#039;ll certainly be seeking out more by CL Moore, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading this now, based on this article. One thing that hasn&#8217;t been emphasised is how good the characterisation is in this novel. The author has given most of the characters a family to worry about; and suddenly, even across cultural gulfs you can see the characters as human. I&#8217;m already glad I bought this, and I haven&#8217;t finished yet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly be seeking out more by CL Moore, too.</p>
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		<title>By: CL Anderson</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-162368</link>
		<dc:creator>CL Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it does.  My thanks to you and the other folks who have said they were picking up the book for being willing to take a chance, and also our Host, not only for allowing me to blog here, but for encouraging a civil atmosphere for the debate and discussion of this and other Big Ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it does.  My thanks to you and the other folks who have said they were picking up the book for being willing to take a chance, and also our Host, not only for allowing me to blog here, but for encouraging a civil atmosphere for the debate and discussion of this and other Big Ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Longwing</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-162020</link>
		<dc:creator>Longwing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Big Idea has been fairly unique for me. This is the first time in my life that I&#039;ve bought a book based on a single article, mention, or review. I read the Big Idea, and literally whispered &quot;sold&quot; when I finished. The book&#039;s in transit as I type.

I&#039;m normally very slow to try new authors. Even Scalzi&#039;s (brilliant) Old Man&#039;s War series took consistent haranguing on the part of my sister, and a visit to a DC reading, before I relented and plunked down cash.

I don&#039;t know that I agree with the entire premise, and the conversation in the comments is fascinating, but I am sure it&#039;ll be an interesting read.

I just wanted to share that with you. CL Anderson, if you&#039;re still checking these comments, this Big Idea earned you one tick on your royalties chart. It&#039;s not much of an ROI, I&#039;ll admit, but hey, every little bit helps, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Big Idea has been fairly unique for me. This is the first time in my life that I&#8217;ve bought a book based on a single article, mention, or review. I read the Big Idea, and literally whispered &#8220;sold&#8221; when I finished. The book&#8217;s in transit as I type.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m normally very slow to try new authors. Even Scalzi&#8217;s (brilliant) Old Man&#8217;s War series took consistent haranguing on the part of my sister, and a visit to a DC reading, before I relented and plunked down cash.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that I agree with the entire premise, and the conversation in the comments is fascinating, but I am sure it&#8217;ll be an interesting read.</p>
<p>I just wanted to share that with you. CL Anderson, if you&#8217;re still checking these comments, this Big Idea earned you one tick on your royalties chart. It&#8217;s not much of an ROI, I&#8217;ll admit, but hey, every little bit helps, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven E</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-161231</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s actually really, REALLY hard to get most people to kill a stranger.&lt;/i&gt;

Not exactly.  What is difficult is to get most people to kill a stranger &lt;i&gt;on behalf of another stranger&lt;/i&gt;.  That requires significant effort to induce, usually focused on making the soldier-to-be identify with his unit as early man identified with his tribe.

At that point, however, human nature takes over.  The standard mode of interaction between human hunter-gatherer tribes (or, indeed, between groups of chimpanzees) is hostile territoriality which regularly breaks into lethal violence.

This is why soldiers (beyond a few outliers) fight for their &quot;buddies&quot;, not for their country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s actually really, REALLY hard to get most people to kill a stranger.</i></p>
<p>Not exactly.  What is difficult is to get most people to kill a stranger <i>on behalf of another stranger</i>.  That requires significant effort to induce, usually focused on making the soldier-to-be identify with his unit as early man identified with his tribe.</p>
<p>At that point, however, human nature takes over.  The standard mode of interaction between human hunter-gatherer tribes (or, indeed, between groups of chimpanzees) is hostile territoriality which regularly breaks into lethal violence.</p>
<p>This is why soldiers (beyond a few outliers) fight for their &#8220;buddies&#8221;, not for their country.</p>
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		<title>By: CL Anderson</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-161004</link>
		<dc:creator>CL Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James:

We&#039;re dealing with a repressive regime in a colonized system that is a series of moons in orbit around a gas giant.  Only one of those moons has naturally occurring H2O.  Now, there is FTL, so technically, anyone with access to an FTL ship or a &quot;jump gate&quot; could import water from elsewhere.  However, access to FTL in all its forms is also severely restricted by the government/ruling corporation, so the general population only has (relatively) easy access to what&#039;s on their world of residence or available within the system.

This raises the question of manufacturing water.  As I understand the physical requirements, this is a fairly resource intensive process and the still-suit variants are not such a great idea after all.  And, of course, as the ruling corporation wants to maintain a monopoly on water, any large scale H2O manufacturing operation would be shut down.  Which in turn raises the possibility of water sellers operating like meth labs, which I have to admit, I didn&#039;t think of when I wrote this, which is why discussions like this are a Good Thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James:</p>
<p>We&#8217;re dealing with a repressive regime in a colonized system that is a series of moons in orbit around a gas giant.  Only one of those moons has naturally occurring H2O.  Now, there is FTL, so technically, anyone with access to an FTL ship or a &#8220;jump gate&#8221; could import water from elsewhere.  However, access to FTL in all its forms is also severely restricted by the government/ruling corporation, so the general population only has (relatively) easy access to what&#8217;s on their world of residence or available within the system.</p>
<p>This raises the question of manufacturing water.  As I understand the physical requirements, this is a fairly resource intensive process and the still-suit variants are not such a great idea after all.  And, of course, as the ruling corporation wants to maintain a monopoly on water, any large scale H2O manufacturing operation would be shut down.  Which in turn raises the possibility of water sellers operating like meth labs, which I have to admit, I didn&#8217;t think of when I wrote this, which is why discussions like this are a Good Thing.</p>
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		<title>By: James Davis Nicoll</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/25/the-big-idea-c-l-anderson/#comment-160956</link>
		<dc:creator>James Davis Nicoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You are correct, the main solar system the story takes place in only has easy access its own resources in terms of water anyway.&lt;/i&gt;

Could you expand on this statement?</description>
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<p>Could you expand on this statement?</p>
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