Comments on: That Obama Speech, or, Expunging the Stupid Use of Words http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/ WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON OUR HUMILITY Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:34:10 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: William Hubbard http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-165136 William Hubbard Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:20:50 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-165136 Thank you so much for articulating for so long what I have been trying to tell these morons. I'm not saying this because I'm an Obama fan but because I'm not a fan of morons. Obama is no where near what a socialist is. Socialists laugh at the though of Obama being considered a socialist. It's absolutely ridiculous. I've heard him called a nazi socialist which makes my mind swirl. We all know in WW II nazis LOVED commies and socialists so that sentence makes perfect sense right?! Morons..... Thank you so much for articulating for so long what I have been trying to tell these morons. I’m not saying this because I’m an Obama fan but because I’m not a fan of morons. Obama is no where near what a socialist is. Socialists laugh at the though of Obama being considered a socialist. It’s absolutely ridiculous. I’ve heard him called a nazi socialist which makes my mind swirl. We all know in WW II nazis LOVED commies and socialists so that sentence makes perfect sense right?! Morons…..

]]> By: Janka http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-164104 Janka Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:51:56 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-164104 Trust me, hailing from Europe Obama doesn't look *anything* like a socialist. I think, politically, on that axis our right-most party is to the left of him... and they are not socialists either. Trust me, hailing from Europe Obama doesn’t look *anything* like a socialist. I think, politically, on that axis our right-most party is to the left of him… and they are not socialists either.

]]> By: Xopher http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163345 Xopher Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:50:30 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163345 Hmm, I tend to agree, Bozo, but phenomenologically, isn't the sock puppet of a fascist still effectively a fascist? Hmm, I tend to agree, Bozo, but phenomenologically, isn’t the sock puppet of a fascist still effectively a fascist?

]]> By: Bozo the Clone http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163286 Bozo the Clone Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:48:36 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163286 To give them the benefit of the doubt, I think the whole "Obama is a socialist" meme simply got started as payback for the "Bush is a fascist" meme. Both are equally false. Cheney is the fascist. Bush was just a sock-puppet. To give them the benefit of the doubt, I think the whole “Obama is a socialist” meme simply got started as payback for the “Bush is a fascist” meme. Both are equally false.

Cheney is the fascist. Bush was just a sock-puppet.

]]> By: Xopher http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163104 Xopher Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:39:03 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163104 OK. You know, this could have been a very interesting discussion, with both sides learning (especially me) if he had disagreed with me and said why here, instead of calling me a moron on his own site and "politely" linking to it. He knows some things I didn't/don't and would like to, and the reverse (much as he'd never listen to a "moron") is also true, but just by getting nasty in that smarmy way, he spoiled the possibility of that more interesting conversation happening. It would still have been far off topic, though. But I think it's an interesting object lesson. OK. You know, this could have been a very interesting discussion, with both sides learning (especially me) if he had disagreed with me and said why here, instead of calling me a moron on his own site and “politely” linking to it. He knows some things I didn’t/don’t and would like to, and the reverse (much as he’d never listen to a “moron”) is also true, but just by getting nasty in that smarmy way, he spoiled the possibility of that more interesting conversation happening.

It would still have been far off topic, though. But I think it’s an interesting object lesson.

]]> By: John Scalzi http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163100 John Scalzi Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:31:40 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163100 Well, in fact, I think it's all gone about as far as it's going to go here, and as noted a bit earlier, we've wandered far afield in any event. Well, in fact, I think it’s all gone about as far as it’s going to go here, and as noted a bit earlier, we’ve wandered far afield in any event.

]]> By: Xopher http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163096 Xopher Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:26:21 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163096 (Naming that second branch by what we all agree on, which is that they're not the same thing.) (Naming that second branch by what we all agree on, which is that they’re not the same thing.)

]]> By: Xopher http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163095 Xopher Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:25:35 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163095 John, my 221 was typed before I saw your 220. But clarification: do you mean the synaptic purge/brain development branch, or the socialism != fascism branch, or (I deeply hope) both? John, my 221 was typed before I saw your 220. But clarification: do you mean the synaptic purge/brain development branch, or the socialism != fascism branch, or (I deeply hope) both?

]]> By: Xopher http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163094 Xopher Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:23:19 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163094 Gosh that seems like a reasonable comment. Boy there are things there I'd engage with from someone else. But from this guy, I know it's a trap, so I won't. Gosh that seems like a reasonable comment. Boy there are things there I’d engage with from someone else.

But from this guy, I know it’s a trap, so I won’t.

]]> By: John Scalzi http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/09/09/that-obama-speech-or-expunging-the-stupid-use-of-words/#comment-163092 John Scalzi Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:22:03 +0000 http://whatever.scalzi.com/?p=8438#comment-163092 You know, let's all move away from that particular branch of the discussion, shall we. It's become overly contentious at this point. You know, let’s all move away from that particular branch of the discussion, shall we. It’s become overly contentious at this point.

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