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		<title>By: BookWhirl.com</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/23/quick-note-on-self-publishing/#comment-185933</link>
		<dc:creator>BookWhirl.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a good point. That&#039;s why it&#039;s also important to consider the purpose of what you are writing. I think it&#039;s something that a few writers are missing out--the purpose of what their writing. Thanks for sharing this post. Keep on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a good point. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s also important to consider the purpose of what you are writing. I think it&#8217;s something that a few writers are missing out&#8211;the purpose of what their writing. Thanks for sharing this post. Keep on!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Watts</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/23/quick-note-on-self-publishing/#comment-178743</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a similar post about self-publishing on my blog. I&#039;ve also provided a link to a video showing the Espresso Book Machine at Blackwell&#039;s Bookshop on Charing Cross Road in London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar post about self-publishing on my blog. I&#8217;ve also provided a link to a video showing the Espresso Book Machine at Blackwell&#8217;s Bookshop on Charing Cross Road in London.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used both Lulu and CreateSpace for niche printing jobs.  The latter has less hand-holding in its online interface, though the base-cost-per-book is lower.  The printing quality has been fine either way.  Rule of thumb:  expect to order two test copies, as the first one you get will have a gutter margin 3mm too narrow, or you&#039;ll find that you invented a stunning new way to spell the word &lt;i&gt;sloped&lt;/i&gt; which somehow evaded all prior rounds of copy-editing.

As luck would have it, I found that you can use the same PDF for both services.  Being me, I did it all in LaTeX, which beats M$ Word in the typesetting department any day, provided you&#039;re willing to write your SF murder mystery in a Turing-complete programming language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used both Lulu and CreateSpace for niche printing jobs.  The latter has less hand-holding in its online interface, though the base-cost-per-book is lower.  The printing quality has been fine either way.  Rule of thumb:  expect to order two test copies, as the first one you get will have a gutter margin 3mm too narrow, or you&#8217;ll find that you invented a stunning new way to spell the word <i>sloped</i> which somehow evaded all prior rounds of copy-editing.</p>
<p>As luck would have it, I found that you can use the same PDF for both services.  Being me, I did it all in LaTeX, which beats M$ Word in the typesetting department any day, provided you&#8217;re willing to write your SF murder mystery in a Turing-complete programming language.</p>
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		<title>By: houseboatonstyx</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/23/quick-note-on-self-publishing/#comment-178255</link>
		<dc:creator>houseboatonstyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When in doubt, look at whether the &#039;service company&#039; is entangling your copyright! If so -- it&#039;s vanity.

The only legit case I know of is if someone like Lightning Source or lulu needs a non-exclusive license to print copies to fill orders from third parties. No one should ever get an exclusive license or anything that affects your copyright for this or future books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When in doubt, look at whether the &#8217;service company&#8217; is entangling your copyright! If so &#8212; it&#8217;s vanity.</p>
<p>The only legit case I know of is if someone like Lightning Source or lulu needs a non-exclusive license to print copies to fill orders from third parties. No one should ever get an exclusive license or anything that affects your copyright for this or future books.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathreee @ 39 
Because they are providing services to publishers.

When you are self-publishing, you have to either do the things a publisher does yourself, or pay someone else to do it. 

A long time ago, I worked for a company that wanted to produce printed manuals for the software that we produced. There was no way a real publisher was going to do it, there was simply no market. So we hired a publishing services company (I don&#039;t remember which one, and this was 15 years ago) to help produce the book. I had to write the dang thing, but they did the layout, typography, etc, helped us find a printer, advised us on paper and binding, and basically got us through a process we knew nothing about. 

And afterwards, we owned it. 

If you&#039;re familiar with Yog&#039;s Law, you might have also read &lt;a href=&quot;http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/004641.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slushkiller&lt;/a&gt;. Vanity presses are preying on the first 10 grades. Self publishing is for grades 11+, that is, &quot;Someone could publish this book, but we don’t see why it should be us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathreee @ 39<br />
Because they are providing services to publishers.</p>
<p>When you are self-publishing, you have to either do the things a publisher does yourself, or pay someone else to do it. </p>
<p>A long time ago, I worked for a company that wanted to produce printed manuals for the software that we produced. There was no way a real publisher was going to do it, there was simply no market. So we hired a publishing services company (I don&#8217;t remember which one, and this was 15 years ago) to help produce the book. I had to write the dang thing, but they did the layout, typography, etc, helped us find a printer, advised us on paper and binding, and basically got us through a process we knew nothing about. </p>
<p>And afterwards, we owned it. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re familiar with Yog&#8217;s Law, you might have also read <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/004641.html" rel="nofollow">Slushkiller</a>. Vanity presses are preying on the first 10 grades. Self publishing is for grades 11+, that is, &#8220;Someone could publish this book, but we don’t see why it should be us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathreee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathreee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 33 Alice Bentley
So, if it&#039;s so different, why do they call it by almost the same name? Oh wait, right, they&#039;re after money, and things like this are very common in the US...
And why would I pay them to do it, if a publisher is going to do it for free?
/shrug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 33 Alice Bentley<br />
So, if it&#8217;s so different, why do they call it by almost the same name? Oh wait, right, they&#8217;re after money, and things like this are very common in the US&#8230;<br />
And why would I pay them to do it, if a publisher is going to do it for free?<br />
/shrug</p>
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		<title>By: DRST</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I self-released a DVD via CreateSpace and had a very good experience with them. The product was indistinguishable from a professional studio product (other than the lackluster insert design, which is my fault; I did it myself). They&#039;re up front about costs and how much they take, and the film is not only available from their e-store and Amazon but also now streaming on Amazon, none of which I had to pay up front for (Amazon takes an additional cut of the price on top of CreateSpace&#039;s cut, though, so even fewer pennies go into my pocket).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I self-released a DVD via CreateSpace and had a very good experience with them. The product was indistinguishable from a professional studio product (other than the lackluster insert design, which is my fault; I did it myself). They&#8217;re up front about costs and how much they take, and the film is not only available from their e-store and Amazon but also now streaming on Amazon, none of which I had to pay up front for (Amazon takes an additional cut of the price on top of CreateSpace&#8217;s cut, though, so even fewer pennies go into my pocket).</p>
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		<title>By: David Broudy</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/23/quick-note-on-self-publishing/#comment-177934</link>
		<dc:creator>David Broudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the love of &amp;deity; do NOT use MS Wurd to format anything that is to be professionally printed. There&#039;s these things called typography, nuance, readability and design; have you heard of them? If you think Wurd is good enough, then you have not.

I don&#039;t write fiction because I suck at it, so don&#039;t think you know anything about typesetting and typography unless you&#039;ve successfully done it with the right tools and study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the love of &deity; do NOT use MS Wurd to format anything that is to be professionally printed. There&#8217;s these things called typography, nuance, readability and design; have you heard of them? If you think Wurd is good enough, then you have not.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t write fiction because I suck at it, so don&#8217;t think you know anything about typesetting and typography unless you&#8217;ve successfully done it with the right tools and study.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scalzi (#12)

When it comes to the issue of novices (and some experienced authors) having less than adequate business training, let me just say...Amen.

One of the first things I advise clients to do is become familiar with the industry - very, very, very familiar.

One of the other things I advise is that they find a good lawyer.  (You&#039;ll note I don&#039;t advise &quot;my clients&quot; to that end - probably because I try not to give advice that&#039;s no longer necessary or relevant.  I tend to think they already have one.)

It&#039;s impossible to overestimate the importance of business savvy when making decisions about writing, particularly when it&#039;s intended as a career.  Self-publishing isn&#039;t &quot;traditional publishing,&quot; and it&#039;s not for everyone, but I know plenty of people who&#039;ve used it to good advantage.  The real issue is one of disclosure, information and understanding - without which, quite frankly, people make bad decisions in many areas - publishing perhaps the least of them.

And just to add two more cents&#039; worth: I have several clients who use Lulu regularly, for various purposes (read: I&#039;m the lawyer, don&#039;t ask me for details) and although I have only very limited contacts with the company, my experience with their business department has been much better than I expected.  They seemed particularly interested in ensuring they met the needs of small publishers and independent publishers.  I can&#039;t otherwise recommend or criticize their service, but I can say they did have a better grasp of the issues and a more helpful support team than I expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scalzi (#12)</p>
<p>When it comes to the issue of novices (and some experienced authors) having less than adequate business training, let me just say&#8230;Amen.</p>
<p>One of the first things I advise clients to do is become familiar with the industry &#8211; very, very, very familiar.</p>
<p>One of the other things I advise is that they find a good lawyer.  (You&#8217;ll note I don&#8217;t advise &#8220;my clients&#8221; to that end &#8211; probably because I try not to give advice that&#8217;s no longer necessary or relevant.  I tend to think they already have one.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to overestimate the importance of business savvy when making decisions about writing, particularly when it&#8217;s intended as a career.  Self-publishing isn&#8217;t &#8220;traditional publishing,&#8221; and it&#8217;s not for everyone, but I know plenty of people who&#8217;ve used it to good advantage.  The real issue is one of disclosure, information and understanding &#8211; without which, quite frankly, people make bad decisions in many areas &#8211; publishing perhaps the least of them.</p>
<p>And just to add two more cents&#8217; worth: I have several clients who use Lulu regularly, for various purposes (read: I&#8217;m the lawyer, don&#8217;t ask me for details) and although I have only very limited contacts with the company, my experience with their business department has been much better than I expected.  They seemed particularly interested in ensuring they met the needs of small publishers and independent publishers.  I can&#8217;t otherwise recommend or criticize their service, but I can say they did have a better grasp of the issues and a more helpful support team than I expected.</p>
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		<title>By: wirelizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>wirelizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An open-source Linux documentation project I was heavily involved in about four years ago published a physical manual of our work through Lulu; it was the same Docbook-markup content as the system&#039;s built-in help, but run through a PDF converting script and cleaned up manually.

We set our Lulu account up to be zero royalties, so total cost to our project was zero, and the cost per-book was as low as possible. I forget the exact sales figures, but we did sell a fair number of copies.

The coolest part was working with the translation teams to do internationalized non-English editions; I&#039;d done the original cover art and found myself learning to work with Arabic, Hebrew, Cyrillic and other non-Western scripts for the first time... and I&#039;m esentially a unilingual English speaker! (we eventually hacked out a script to do most of the translation, by pulling certain phrases from the already translated content and copying them into the SVG graphics used for the cover.)

Lulu worked well for us, but we did have, between us, a large amount of computer knowhow, reasonable design chops, and some layout and publishing experience. The content is several years out of date now, but it was a great project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An open-source Linux documentation project I was heavily involved in about four years ago published a physical manual of our work through Lulu; it was the same Docbook-markup content as the system&#8217;s built-in help, but run through a PDF converting script and cleaned up manually.</p>
<p>We set our Lulu account up to be zero royalties, so total cost to our project was zero, and the cost per-book was as low as possible. I forget the exact sales figures, but we did sell a fair number of copies.</p>
<p>The coolest part was working with the translation teams to do internationalized non-English editions; I&#8217;d done the original cover art and found myself learning to work with Arabic, Hebrew, Cyrillic and other non-Western scripts for the first time&#8230; and I&#8217;m esentially a unilingual English speaker! (we eventually hacked out a script to do most of the translation, by pulling certain phrases from the already translated content and copying them into the SVG graphics used for the cover.)</p>
<p>Lulu worked well for us, but we did have, between us, a large amount of computer knowhow, reasonable design chops, and some layout and publishing experience. The content is several years out of date now, but it was a great project.</p>
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