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	<title>Comments on: Monday Updatery</title>
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		<title>By: hugh57</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179915</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conspicuous is the absence of chang≠chang. You don&#039;t suppose he&#039;s fallen down a well, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspicuous is the absence of chang≠chang. You don&#8217;t suppose he&#8217;s fallen down a well, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179539</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be that you posted a photo of cats here, and chang (who is not chang) didn&#039;t comment?  I&#039;m missing the harangue about poor composition, never mind the absence of Ghlaghghee.  Or is it here, and I just overlooked it.  Personally, I like seeing photos of any of your cats, so we&#039;re good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be that you posted a photo of cats here, and chang (who is not chang) didn&#8217;t comment?  I&#8217;m missing the harangue about poor composition, never mind the absence of Ghlaghghee.  Or is it here, and I just overlooked it.  Personally, I like seeing photos of any of your cats, so we&#8217;re good.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sundeen</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179381</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sundeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, it would depend entirely on what the law says in that jurisdiction, so I am relluctant to assume an outcome, no matter how much people think they shouldn&#039;t have done that.  There very well could be a specific federal law that addresses these kinds of intrusions.  If so, then I am sure if there is enough pressure, some creative prosecutor will find some way to file charges.  On the other hand, the crashers can probably afford decent counsel and even they couldn&#039;t, some publicity starved attorney would probably take the case with a substantial discount.

My initial comment was based on what I know of trespassing laws in general and how they are applied in most situations and it would be difficult to make a case for prosecuting a party crasher, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, it would depend entirely on what the law says in that jurisdiction, so I am relluctant to assume an outcome, no matter how much people think they shouldn&#8217;t have done that.  There very well could be a specific federal law that addresses these kinds of intrusions.  If so, then I am sure if there is enough pressure, some creative prosecutor will find some way to file charges.  On the other hand, the crashers can probably afford decent counsel and even they couldn&#8217;t, some publicity starved attorney would probably take the case with a substantial discount.</p>
<p>My initial comment was based on what I know of trespassing laws in general and how they are applied in most situations and it would be difficult to make a case for prosecuting a party crasher, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Bearpaw</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179342</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine Shaffer @ 44:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
All these comparisons to stealing a car or robbing a bank are stupid. Trespassing is not an abstract concept that needs to be likened to another crime. We all know what it is. Sheesh.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re not a lawyer either, clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine Shaffer @ 44:</p>
<blockquote><p>
All these comparisons to stealing a car or robbing a bank are stupid. Trespassing is not an abstract concept that needs to be likened to another crime. We all know what it is. Sheesh.
</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re not a lawyer either, clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lodger</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179282</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Sundeen @43:

This was a state dinner f&#039;ghod&#039;s sake. The guests were guarded by Secret Service (for some smaller-than-expected value of the word _guarded_). Not to mention Marines. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s much of a stretch to infer that this event was not open to the general public. Not even a DC jury would require the presence of a &quot;No Trespassing&quot; sign outside the tent,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Sundeen @43:</p>
<p>This was a state dinner f&#8217;ghod&#8217;s sake. The guests were guarded by Secret Service (for some smaller-than-expected value of the word _guarded_). Not to mention Marines. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s much of a stretch to infer that this event was not open to the general public. Not even a DC jury would require the presence of a &#8220;No Trespassing&#8221; sign outside the tent,</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Shaffer</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179277</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Shaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these comparisons to stealing a car or robbing a bank are stupid. Trespassing is not an abstract concept that needs to be likened to another crime. We all know what it is. Sheesh. These people presented themselves and were allowed inside (for whatever reason). I don&#039;t see any basis for trespassing unless they were asked to leave and refused. The truth is, they got away with it, and now they are claiming that they believed themselves to be invited. Obviously, something odd happened...maybe there was some bribery or something else that is uncovered. Surely one or more persons will lose jobs. But, hey, not everything that is wrong is illegal. Oh, well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these comparisons to stealing a car or robbing a bank are stupid. Trespassing is not an abstract concept that needs to be likened to another crime. We all know what it is. Sheesh. These people presented themselves and were allowed inside (for whatever reason). I don&#8217;t see any basis for trespassing unless they were asked to leave and refused. The truth is, they got away with it, and now they are claiming that they believed themselves to be invited. Obviously, something odd happened&#8230;maybe there was some bribery or something else that is uncovered. Surely one or more persons will lose jobs. But, hey, not everything that is wrong is illegal. Oh, well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sundeen</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179273</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sundeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lying to the police is not a felony, though it may be considered obstruction of justice under some circumstances.  Trespassing typically requires some kind of notice that you should not be there, such as a fence or a sign.   Based on what I know, I have to agree with the SS spokesman and question that there has been a crime.  That being said, I am not familiar with DC law and am only going by what I know about trespassing laws in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lying to the police is not a felony, though it may be considered obstruction of justice under some circumstances.  Trespassing typically requires some kind of notice that you should not be there, such as a fence or a sign.   Based on what I know, I have to agree with the SS spokesman and question that there has been a crime.  That being said, I am not familiar with DC law and am only going by what I know about trespassing laws in general.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179267</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Tuckerization idea is very nifty and it introduced me to two authors whom I had never heard of before.  Kudos to the authors for supporting this great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Tuckerization idea is very nifty and it introduced me to two authors whom I had never heard of before.  Kudos to the authors for supporting this great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkHB</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179260</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, PPS:  If you&#039;re gonna let her play, lend her your headset for the love o&#039;gh0d.  She was going nuts having to type tactical calls - which by the time she&#039;d typed &#039;em she was being tenderised by a Charger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, PPS:  If you&#8217;re gonna let her play, lend her your headset for the love o&#8217;gh0d.  She was going nuts having to type tactical calls &#8211; which by the time she&#8217;d typed &#8216;em she was being tenderised by a Charger!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkHB</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/11/30/monday-updatery/#comment-179254</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scalzi:  She was a superb team-player, and I will play with her anytime.  You&#039;ll have to do well to match her, you know.

Even if she did keep telling us to let Ellis die in his own blood.  Bwahhaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scalzi:  She was a superb team-player, and I will play with her anytime.  You&#8217;ll have to do well to match her, you know.</p>
<p>Even if she did keep telling us to let Ellis die in his own blood.  Bwahhaha!</p>
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