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		<title>By: Matthew Anderson</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-212358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i love feisty girls like michelle rodriguez, beautiful woman with lots of action.&quot;~&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love feisty girls like michelle rodriguez, beautiful woman with lots of action.&#8221;~&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-191754</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to see this farce in 3 D today and left after 60 minutes.  I just got bored and new it was going to be a liberal bashing of corporate greed.  The 3 D was awesome, but the lame and predictable story was pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to see this farce in 3 D today and left after 60 minutes.  I just got bored and new it was going to be a liberal bashing of corporate greed.  The 3 D was awesome, but the lame and predictable story was pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaetu</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-186408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaetu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Myla, ... is not a substitute for proper punctuation jerksauce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Myla, &#8230; is not a substitute for proper punctuation jerksauce.</p>
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		<title>By: mylamayhem02</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-185416</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[people are giving interesting explanations for ...the planet sending creatures to save it....jake didnt pray to the planet...he prayed to Eywa....the deity...eywa of course...is symbolic for the connection to God....realistically if this occurred, its not the planet that sent the animals, it&#039;s really &quot;God&quot; and depending on your belief system, it&#039;s not some fake deity, eywa was GOD....the name for God...just as many belief systems use different names for God, deity etc...many paganistic type religions even ones like hinduism originally linked to the concept of God....ie the same God of the monotheistic religions....so ewya wasn&#039;t some planetary deity--unless you believe planetary deities have the capability of sending out animals to win wars....eywa was God and they prayed to God and were saved....ewya also was &#039;spirit&#039; or wht is referred to as spirit or a nature God.... in most paganistic type belief systems.....there are wars fought in some religious battles where small weak armies were outnumbered by large strong ones, and God sent angels to help fight them and won...that&#039;s what this battle was symbolic of....for people that may not understand the concept....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people are giving interesting explanations for &#8230;the planet sending creatures to save it&#8230;.jake didnt pray to the planet&#8230;he prayed to Eywa&#8230;.the deity&#8230;eywa of course&#8230;is symbolic for the connection to God&#8230;.realistically if this occurred, its not the planet that sent the animals, it&#8217;s really &#8220;God&#8221; and depending on your belief system, it&#8217;s not some fake deity, eywa was GOD&#8230;.the name for God&#8230;just as many belief systems use different names for God, deity etc&#8230;many paganistic type religions even ones like hinduism originally linked to the concept of God&#8230;.ie the same God of the monotheistic religions&#8230;.so ewya wasn&#8217;t some planetary deity&#8211;unless you believe planetary deities have the capability of sending out animals to win wars&#8230;.eywa was God and they prayed to God and were saved&#8230;.ewya also was &#8216;spirit&#8217; or wht is referred to as spirit or a nature God&#8230;. in most paganistic type belief systems&#8230;..there are wars fought in some religious battles where small weak armies were outnumbered by large strong ones, and God sent angels to help fight them and won&#8230;that&#8217;s what this battle was symbolic of&#8230;.for people that may not understand the concept&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mylamayhem02</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-185415</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its amazing and stunning in every way really...and yes you have to go --at least twice to really grasp what you missed the first time....ive been four times now and will go back...it is an experience and one you dont mind going through many times....im sure many others feel the same way....yes worthington was sort of bland and lacked spunk in his acting....the dialogue was stupid at times for many of the characters, some things could havebeen done differently but overall a really great movie and something most people have never experienced before]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its amazing and stunning in every way really&#8230;and yes you have to go &#8211;at least twice to really grasp what you missed the first time&#8230;.ive been four times now and will go back&#8230;it is an experience and one you dont mind going through many times&#8230;.im sure many others feel the same way&#8230;.yes worthington was sort of bland and lacked spunk in his acting&#8230;.the dialogue was stupid at times for many of the characters, some things could havebeen done differently but overall a really great movie and something most people have never experienced before</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. S.I. Ritterman</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-184788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. S.I. Ritterman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife had the same experience she had with Blair Witch - nausea and vertigo. Left after the first 15 minutes or so. Any idea how common this
response was? She attributed it to all the movement going on in the scened rather than to the 3D effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife had the same experience she had with Blair Witch &#8211; nausea and vertigo. Left after the first 15 minutes or so. Any idea how common this<br />
response was? She attributed it to all the movement going on in the scened rather than to the 3D effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Athena Andreadis</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-184660</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My take on Avatar: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.starshipreckless.com/blog/?p=1245&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jar Jar Binks Meets Pocahontas&lt;/a&gt;.

And an even better take than mine (if that&#039;s possible!): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/avatar_and_the_american_man_child_dont_you_want_to_be_an_indian_little_boy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Avatar and the American Man-Child: “Don’t you want to be an Indian little boy?”&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on Avatar: <a href="http://www.starshipreckless.com/blog/?p=1245" rel="nofollow">Jar Jar Binks Meets Pocahontas</a>.</p>
<p>And an even better take than mine (if that&#8217;s possible!): <a href="http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/avatar_and_the_american_man_child_dont_you_want_to_be_an_indian_little_boy/" rel="nofollow">Avatar and the American Man-Child: “Don’t you want to be an Indian little boy?”</a></p>
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		<title>By: Purple0limar</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-184260</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea with the mountains is that the Unobtainium that they&#039;re composed of (unobtainium being a room-temperature superconductor) is levitated by the interaction of the magnetic fields of Polyphemus and Pandora. The reason these things don&#039;t make it into the script of the movie isn&#039;t that they&#039;re unsupported, it&#039;s just that audiences don&#039;t want to get bogged down with scientific explanations of all the little details. Most of the information you&#039;re griping about is readily available if you search for it. And of course, let&#039;s not forget the wise words of Mr. Scalzi: &quot;&#039;Science&#039; and &#039;fiction&#039; should carry equal weight.&quot; That&#039;s a paraphrase, but you get the idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea with the mountains is that the Unobtainium that they&#8217;re composed of (unobtainium being a room-temperature superconductor) is levitated by the interaction of the magnetic fields of Polyphemus and Pandora. The reason these things don&#8217;t make it into the script of the movie isn&#8217;t that they&#8217;re unsupported, it&#8217;s just that audiences don&#8217;t want to get bogged down with scientific explanations of all the little details. Most of the information you&#8217;re griping about is readily available if you search for it. And of course, let&#8217;s not forget the wise words of Mr. Scalzi: &#8220;&#8216;Science&#8217; and &#8216;fiction&#8217; should carry equal weight.&#8221; That&#8217;s a paraphrase, but you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: AcesHigh</title>
		<link>http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/12/20/avatar-review/#comment-184212</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, ok, it seems other people had already noticed and commented on the 6 pairs of limbs (I said &quot;members&quot; in the previous post, probably not the best word choice in english haha)

As for realism in the movie, has anybody mentioned the flying mountains? Another part of the movie where they said &quot;screw all the realism we´ve trying to get in the movie, lets just add some cool stuff for the sake of coolness&quot;. They dont even try to explain those mountains. Just like the lower gravity, which as I said earlier, is mentioned, but never felt in the movie. Maybe when they said &quot;lower&quot; they meant 0.9 G... great, it would be really difficult to notice the difference in the falling speed, the way caracthers walk, etc. On the other hand, those huge trees would also be impossible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, ok, it seems other people had already noticed and commented on the 6 pairs of limbs (I said &#8220;members&#8221; in the previous post, probably not the best word choice in english haha)</p>
<p>As for realism in the movie, has anybody mentioned the flying mountains? Another part of the movie where they said &#8220;screw all the realism we´ve trying to get in the movie, lets just add some cool stuff for the sake of coolness&#8221;. They dont even try to explain those mountains. Just like the lower gravity, which as I said earlier, is mentioned, but never felt in the movie. Maybe when they said &#8220;lower&#8221; they meant 0.9 G&#8230; great, it would be really difficult to notice the difference in the falling speed, the way caracthers walk, etc. On the other hand, those huge trees would also be impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: AcesHigh</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi from Novo Hamburgo, Brazil.

My biggest problem with Avatar was that the film tried so hard to be scientifically plausible at so many things, but in others, it seems the director/writers just said &quot;screw it, forget realism&quot;.

For example... the whole ecology of pandora is quite plausible and follows rules of evolution, etc. For example, animals and trees can be bigger because of lower gravity. On the other hand, while the TALK about the lower gravity in Pandora, it seems they FORGOT about it!

Also, ALL the animal life in Pandora has 3 pairs of members... the lemur-like animals... the rhino/triceratops animal... the big predator, the wolf-life animals, the &quot;horses&quot;, the birds (two pairs of wings and one pair of claws).

The ONLY species out of place in Pandora is the Na´vi, with their pair of arms and legs! It seems they worked so hard to create a consistent ecology but then decided to change the rules for the Na´vi only, so when the human makes out with the native, the audience wouldnt go &quot;ewww&quot;.

In fact, thats another problem... the aliens resemblance with humans. I can perfectly understand it in old movies and specially in tv-series, where budgets make really alien like caracthers prohibetivelly expensive. But imho, its quite unforgivable that full 3D caracthers like those from Avatar cant be REALLY alien.

And the message of the movie gets LOST on it. I mean, if its about that we humans should ACCEPT differences and such, so why do the movie presents us with caracthers which are so SIMILAR to us? Where really is the alieness of the Na´vi? 

They look and act as north american native americans, although many of their traits can also be found on many other cultures, including old european cultures (including ancient greece), thus I dont buy much into all that &quot;white guilt&quot; and &quot;noble savage&quot; stuff, considering that Europe itself had cultures with similar traits to which white people CAN relate.

Maybe its more about western CAPITALISTIC culture than about &quot;white culture&quot;. 


So, there we are, &quot;learning&quot; about respecting and understand other cultures. Problem is, how deep is such message when it requires the audience to respect and understand things so similar to their own culture?

Its easier to relate to the Na´vi culture than to the Aztec/Mayas culture! DISTRIC 9 was much better in that sense. While we still could &quot;read&quot; the aliens emotions (anger, surprise, etc) they were MUCH MORE ALIEN and difficult to relate, both in appearance and culture.


I guess AVATAR would be a much better film if the aliens were like those from District 9... with 4 arms, even if at the end only part of the audience was able to relate to the aliens, instead of how the movie is, FORCING you to relate to the aliens by dumping away realism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from Novo Hamburgo, Brazil.</p>
<p>My biggest problem with Avatar was that the film tried so hard to be scientifically plausible at so many things, but in others, it seems the director/writers just said &#8220;screw it, forget realism&#8221;.</p>
<p>For example&#8230; the whole ecology of pandora is quite plausible and follows rules of evolution, etc. For example, animals and trees can be bigger because of lower gravity. On the other hand, while the TALK about the lower gravity in Pandora, it seems they FORGOT about it!</p>
<p>Also, ALL the animal life in Pandora has 3 pairs of members&#8230; the lemur-like animals&#8230; the rhino/triceratops animal&#8230; the big predator, the wolf-life animals, the &#8220;horses&#8221;, the birds (two pairs of wings and one pair of claws).</p>
<p>The ONLY species out of place in Pandora is the Na´vi, with their pair of arms and legs! It seems they worked so hard to create a consistent ecology but then decided to change the rules for the Na´vi only, so when the human makes out with the native, the audience wouldnt go &#8220;ewww&#8221;.</p>
<p>In fact, thats another problem&#8230; the aliens resemblance with humans. I can perfectly understand it in old movies and specially in tv-series, where budgets make really alien like caracthers prohibetivelly expensive. But imho, its quite unforgivable that full 3D caracthers like those from Avatar cant be REALLY alien.</p>
<p>And the message of the movie gets LOST on it. I mean, if its about that we humans should ACCEPT differences and such, so why do the movie presents us with caracthers which are so SIMILAR to us? Where really is the alieness of the Na´vi? </p>
<p>They look and act as north american native americans, although many of their traits can also be found on many other cultures, including old european cultures (including ancient greece), thus I dont buy much into all that &#8220;white guilt&#8221; and &#8220;noble savage&#8221; stuff, considering that Europe itself had cultures with similar traits to which white people CAN relate.</p>
<p>Maybe its more about western CAPITALISTIC culture than about &#8220;white culture&#8221;. </p>
<p>So, there we are, &#8220;learning&#8221; about respecting and understand other cultures. Problem is, how deep is such message when it requires the audience to respect and understand things so similar to their own culture?</p>
<p>Its easier to relate to the Na´vi culture than to the Aztec/Mayas culture! DISTRIC 9 was much better in that sense. While we still could &#8220;read&#8221; the aliens emotions (anger, surprise, etc) they were MUCH MORE ALIEN and difficult to relate, both in appearance and culture.</p>
<p>I guess AVATAR would be a much better film if the aliens were like those from District 9&#8230; with 4 arms, even if at the end only part of the audience was able to relate to the aliens, instead of how the movie is, FORCING you to relate to the aliens by dumping away realism.</p>
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