Dormouse, Dormice

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1. Josh Jasper says:
   August 14, 2010 at 8:51 am

   One wonders if that’s what Dormicum was named for.
2. Allyson says:
   August 14, 2010 at 9:02 am

   Well Propofol/Diprivan is used to induce sleep today and it’s a lipid (fat)/egg white (protein) emulsion… so maybe I can see that dormouse fat might work. But also I couldn’t find how they used the fat. Injected? Ingested? Rubbed it over their bodies and passed out from revulsion?
3. Geoff K says:
   August 14, 2010 at 9:05 am

   Remember what the Dormouse said, “Feed your head”
   After having served as a boatswains mate in the USN, I can honestly say that I’ve developed the skill (it’s not a talent) of being able to sleep just about anywhere, and under some weird/ bad conditions for short periods of time. But most of all, I do love a good afternoon nap.
4. nancileigh says:
   August 14, 2010 at 10:29 am

   No research whatsoever involved, just pure speculation – with the root of dormir (to sleep) – that’s probably why they were named dormice.

   Just thinking aloud.
5. Pat says:
   August 14, 2010 at 10:54 am

   From the Oxford English Dictionary:

   Origin obscure: the second element has been, at least since c 1575, treated as the word mouse, with pl. mice, though a pl. dormouses is evidenced in 16-17th c. The first element has also from 16th c. been associated with L. dormre, F. dormir to sleep, (as if dorm-mouse; cf. 16th c. Du. slaep-ratte, slaep-muys); but it is not certain that this is the original composition.
   (Skeat suggests for the first element ON. dár benumbed: cf. also dial. ‘dorrer, a sleeper, a lazy person’ (Halliwell). (The F. dormeuse, fem. of dormeur sleeper, sometimes suggested as the etymon, is not known before 17th c.).
   ***********************************************
   This is probably a case of the Doctrine of Signatures. If a creature sleeps a lot it will make you sleep. Walnuts are good for the brain as they look like brains. Asparagus….

   Wild Lettuce is a very effective sedative, though excess causes nightmares. The salad vegetable lettuce is still a bit sedative, I find the cos varieties especially so. Though I can eat a whole cos in one sitting easily.

   The propofol is an emulsion in fat in order to deliver it effectively into the body. The fat nhas nothing to do with it.
6. J K says:
   August 14, 2010 at 11:26 am

   Poor sleepy dormouse. No wonder they used him as a cushion. What a treacle-y fate.
7. MrMaigo says:
   August 14, 2010 at 11:36 am

   1 in 5 get less than 7 hours of sleep? That doesn’t sound too bad.
8. Womyn2me says:
   August 14, 2010 at 4:37 pm

   It’s interesting to note obscure things like this, as it also explains why you and The Scalzi get along so well.
9. D. M. Bonanno says:
   August 14, 2010 at 9:54 pm

   This doesn’t bode well for the sleep deprived writers here…. although one good way to sleep soundly is the big O if you know what I mean… ;)
10. K.W. Ramsey says:
    August 14, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Hmm… a car ride always seems to work for me. As long as I’m not driving of course.
11. Xopher says:
    August 14, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    If they really did use it that way, this is a fact, not a factoid.

    And while the original composition may not be 100% clear, it IS clear that dormice are nocturnal; if you find one during the day, it will probably be asleep.
12. David says:
    August 14, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    They were just trying to make use of the fat’s dormitive properties.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dormitive_principle
13. Bombie says:
    August 15, 2010 at 4:38 am

    According to merriam-webster, a factoid can also be ‘a briefly stated and usually trivial fact’ and doesn’t necessarily have to be an invented one.

    Another dormouse fact(oid): The edible dormouse was considered a delicacy in ancient Rome, either as a savoury appetizer or as a dessert (dipped in honey and poppy seeds) (or so wikipedia says).
14. Pat says:
    August 15, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Factlet does not appear to be a word according to the OED and MW. I have just used it so now it is a word. Datum would be an appropriate synonym.
15. Pat says:
    August 15, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    From 1602, Shakespeare’s “Twelfth Night, or What You Will” Act 3, Scene 2:

    Fabian
    She did show favour to the youth in your sight only
    to exasperate you, to awake your dormouse valour,
    to put fire in your heart and brimstone in your liver.
16. Carey Gage says:
    August 15, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    The Elizabethans had fat dormice? Who knew?
17. CJ says:
    August 15, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Yes, it is true that the ancient Romans ate dormice. They raised them so that they could eat them. Of course, the Romans also took exotic cuisine to excess by consuming things like nightingales and peacocks. However, I think the dormouse was much more common and eaten by others besides just the super rich. I’m sure this could have continued in other countries long after that time.
18. Sebastian says:
    August 16, 2010 at 5:40 am

    Since the Elizabethans predate the age of reason, perhaps the belief it worked would be sufficient.
    The placebo effect.
19. Pat says:
    August 25, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    No trouble is too great for our beloved British dormice.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-11082007

    I don’t know anybody who has eaten one.

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