Fred in Hell

The “Reverend” Fred Phelps sent some of his minions to protest at a memorial service for Fred Rogers (of Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood) apparently because Mr. Rogers’ never interrupted his daily lessons of love, inclusion and acceptance to note parenthetically to a nation full of preschoolers that men who lay with men will be slowly masticated in the slavering, bacteria-ridden jaws of Satan for all of eternity. Phelps’ minions even hauled out signs that read “Fred is in Hell,” for which the only thing to note is that the tense is premature for the Fred for which I suspect this statement will ultimately apply.

The fact that Fred Phelps would claim Mr. Rogers is broiling in Hell is so extreme that I assumed it had to be hoax. But no; go to Phelps’ site (the glowingly friendly domain and there’s a link to a Pittsburgh Tribune-Review story mentioning Phelps’ minions’ presence (in the 25th paragraph). So it’s true enough.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to be so obsessed with the sexual acts of other people that you’re ready to condemn arguably the nicest single man in the history of the United States to the pit of Hell because he didn’t teach a bunch of four-year-olds to hate, except to note that there’s clinical evidence to suggest that many homophobes are actually aroused by homosexuality, and Phelps is the biggest homophobe of them all. Do the math here. Some member of the Queer Nation needs to (you should excuse the expression here) swallow hard and give ol’ Fred Phelps what he really wants. A grateful nation would honor such a person forever.

And it’s not like Fred would have to worry about his immortal soul. He was going to Hell anyway. I mean, seriously. You’re God: Which Fred are You going to clasp to Your bosom? Hint: Not the one that’s going to suspect You’re a fag for doing so.

18 Comments on “Fred in Hell”

  1. So John, want help digging out a bomb shelter? You may be needing it soon with the kinda attention that one’s gonna attract! I have some zealot repellant aerosol I could get you a good deal on too.

  2. Nah. Bring it on. If I can’t fend off religious homophobes with one hand tied behind my back, I really don’t deserve to live.

  3. Assuming for the moment that everyone has a purpose in life, I think the best thing some people can strive for is to be a wonderful bad example.

  4. There’s an editorial at:

    that talks about the plans for the protests; there were a number of locations beyond the memorial that the Phelps protesters visited while in town. I was pleased to hear that few groups bothered to legitimize these monsters with a response, beyond a counter-protest at the memorial itself organized to block out the hateful messages from children who would be attending.

  5. I wish I could say this surprised me, but Phelps has been a certifiable nutcase for years, and is totally hung up on this issue. As I commented in my journal (linking to your entry here), “Phelps and his venemous ilk are such frothing pinheads that even other homophobic religious zealots recognize he gives them a bad name.”

  6. I wish I could say this surprised me, but Phelps has been a certifiable nutcase for years, and is totally hung up on this issue. As I commented in my journal (linking to your entry here), “Phelps and his venemous ilk are such frothing pinheads that even other homophobic religious zealots recognize he gives them a bad name.”

  7. Dissing Mr. Rogers! Phelps does, indeed, deserve to roast in hell.

    I have never understood homophobia. Back in my single days I thought that homosexuality should be encoraged; it meant less competition for the available supply of women. (or do I mean the supply of available women?)

  8. > I have never understood homophobia.

    Well, it’s a phobia. What’s to understand? Can
    you understand arachnophobia? How about

    Just remember that the proper way to treat anyone
    with a phobia or any other sort of mental
    illness is to mock and shun them, as everyone

  9. Phelps wants someone who undoubtedly qualfied as a bodhisattva to roast in hell because he didn’t preach against homosexuality? That is just so. . .mindboggling.

    And wasn’t Phelps the one who’d been spotted propositioning transsexual prostitutes while “disguised” in a jogging suit a couple of years ago? Talk about self-loathing.

  10. Not all phobias are equal, I guess—I myself am arachnophobic, violently so, but I will not kill spiders if I can help it. In spite of the fact that it’s a struggle, I capture them and deport them from the premises (read: my home). And I do get my share of mockery, but not shunning.

    I don’t try to teach anyone, whatever age, to hate spiders.

    Phelps thankfully seems to have reached the “Oh, just go away” status a while ago—otherwise, this [protesting against Rogers] is such a stupid-level outrage that I would have expected to hear more about it elsewhere.

  11. And people don’t understand why I say I left Kansas because Kansas is the Antichrist…And this is one of the reasons why. We used to see Fred and gang on the street corners protesting someone’s restaurant for even SERVING a known homosexual. It does something to kids to see this guy standing on the corner yelling venomous hate week in and week out. Then they all grow up and destroy the career of their sex education professor and get evolution banned from science class.

    Phelps already lives in hell. That state gives me the heeby-jeebies. But not all Kansans are evil, of course, and I know that after seeing him destroy hundreds of funerals, thousands of them are already organizing the mass demonstration that will occur as he is laid to rest. He’s gotta be homosexual. (or perhaps a homophile, in your words) Why else the fascination?

  12. Wait just a minute here…
    Was Mr. Rogers gay? I mean, I knew about Bert & Ernie, but wasn’t Mr. Rogers a ‘family man?’ The two are not mutually exclusive, I know, but…

  13. Fred Rogers was not gay; Phelp’s problem with him was that he didn’t use his platform with children to actively speak out against homosexuality.

    It probably didn’t help that Rogers attended a church which considered itself “More Light Presbyterian”, a religious movement which describes itself at as “seeking the full participation of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people of faith in the life, ministry and witness of the Presbyterian Church”.

  14. Oooh, Malanie, it would so not surprise me to find out that Phelps was ‘busted’ in some twisted way.

    But I haven’t heard that. Does anyone have any references?

  15. That is, I suppose, “steal” in the sense of “take without permission”, rather than “take an exorbitant amount of money by bamboozling client that it’s worth it” :-)


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