My Quirky Tribe
Posted on February 5, 2014 Posted by John Scalzi 32 Comments
I mentioned to a friend recently that one of the reasons I liked playing the tenor guitar — the slightly smaller, four-string variant of the instrument — is that aside from the fact it’s less complicated, it’s also fairly unique; not a lot of other people out there play one, so when I show up somewhere with one, it’s always a fun topic of conversation. I realize this makes me sound like a musical hipster (“oh, this thing? It’s a kind of obscure instrument. I’m sure you haven’t heard of it before”), but I don’t mean it that way, honest. I merely mean to say it’s fun to bring something different to the party.
The flipside of having a moderately obscure instrument, however, is that it does limit things, access-wise. There are dozens of guitar makers out there, making all sorts of acoustic guitars; for tenor guitars, there’s really only two companies making them in any quantity (Blueridge and Gold Tone), and while they’re fine guitars — I have a Blueridge and Krissy has a Gold Tone — they’re not particularly cheap, and the prices for tenor guitars go up from there. I have a dream of one day getting an eight-string tenor guitar, very much like a 12-string, but to do that I will probably have to commission it from a luthier, and I shudder to think how much that might cost.
It’s an instrument with a high(ish) cost of entry, in other words. I’ll note I sort of backed into having a tenor guitar by playing ukulele first and then stringing my tenors like ukes, and ukes, at least, are relatively cheap. So maybe that’s the way in for other folks too. But otherwise I think the tenor guitar is destined to remain a specialty instrument, and that’s a shame. I like that I’m playing an unusual instrument, but I wouldn’t mind a few other people in my quirky tribe.
http://www.luthiers-coop.com/inventory/instruments-wanted/
Nice. I love stringed instruments.
At first I thought you were writing about quirky.com.
I play the tenor guitar. The California Guitar Trio features a tenor guitar player.
A high school friend in Philly is a top-notch luthier specializing in arch top jazz guitars. No idea if he could do a tenor guitar like you’re thinking about, but he does like a challenge…
http://www.cominsguitars.com
Neko Case plays a tenor guitar. Maybe you can get her to join your quirky tribe. I know I’d be stoked to have her in my tribe.
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=625869
I have two old, inexpensive tenors. I was inspired in my youth by one of the greats, Nick Reynolds of the original Kingston Trio.
If your schedule permits, you should hop over to Columbus for the Ohio Valley Filk Festival (www.ovff.org) when it rolls around in October. I can’t recall specifically if there are any tenor guitar players among the regulars, but it wouldn’t surprise me. There are usually at least two uke players.
John – check out Eastwood. They make some very nice ones – juts saw a Warren Ellis tenor that looked like an old Duosonic, lovely. When my ’57 TV got too precious (read: fragile and stealable) to take on the road I switched to an Eastwood and love it dearly. Good guitars
John, what’s the tuning arrangement for the tenor guitar? Just curious…yes, I can look it up on Wikipedia, but I figured if you answer here, lots more people will know, too. Thanks.
8 string guitar might be close to an octave mandolin, bozouki, etc. Basically a larger scale mandolin. maybe something like http://www.gazuki.co.uk/
Loads of fun to show up with a didgeridoo, too. “Yo, let’s jam — everybody tune to me.”
I play a banjolele (in fact, there it is in my icon), because I have read too much PG Wodehouse. It’s fun because it’s always an icebreaker if you’re turning up to a uke meetup/group that you’ve never met before – everyone is immediately interested (and often wants a go).
I got around my similar difficulty by getting an antique one from eBay – I couldn’t afford a GoldTone at shipping-to-Australia prices. Having been to a few folk festivals and hung around the instrument makers stalls, you may find that commissioning one from a luthier potentially cheaper than you think.
Move to Nashville. There’s more Tenor guitars within a 2-mile radius of the Ryman Auditorium than 6-strings in WSW Ohio
I love my Blueridge tenor guitar. It’s a fun instrument and it always raises an eyebrow among traditional guitar players. The comment I hear most often is: “You’re missing a couple strings.”
What Dave B said about mandolins/mandolas/bouzukis, or a taro-patch tenor uke. If you do a uke-type instrument, you’ll have to play around a bit to find the right strings, since the strings are tuned closer together than your tenor guitar or a mandolin/fiddle tuning.
With digeridoos, mine is close enough to D that the issues with using it in a jam are unrelated to its base pitch and have a lot to do with my lack of skill, though in a filk jam that’s been ok.
They made a lot of tenor guitars in the 1960’s because of the Influence of the Kingston Trio, and a lot of those are starting to appear in the used instrument market. I bought a used Martin from Gruen Guitars in Nashville, and it is a spectacular instrument. You might also check with Elderly Instruments in Michigan, they have several used Martins for sale.
On a separate note, you can have a 4-string converted to an 8-string, which should be less expensive than a custom instrument. A new custom tenor will cost at least $3,000, which for custom instuments is not really that expensive (sorry).
I assume you are using Chicago tuning, since you came from the uke. Note that string sets for tenor guitar are usually not optimum for Chicago tuning. I use the string guages recommended by Ry Cooder on his web site. You will get a better sound and feel from your tenor and ordering custom strings is no big deal.
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Ibanez has started making tenor guitars, in their vintage artwood line. Street price seems to be about $300. Probably not as well crafted as a Blueridge, but the fact that Ibanez has started a production line for tenors indicates they think there is a market. Congratulations on being on the leading edge.
http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_ag_page14.php?year=2014&cat_id=3&series_id=83&data_id=7&color=CL01
Speaking of cool 4 string/4 course instruments, here is a video of Sarah Jarosz playing an Octave Mandolin: http://www.fretboardjournal.com/video/sarah-jarosz-build-me-bones#
It’s a marker of your other tribe that you can use a word like “luthier” and know that most of your readership won’t have to look it up.
I have this book, “Handmade Music Factory” by Mike Orr. You could be your own luthier.
Hans:
This is so not a good idea. There’s a reason I work with words, not wood.
But, electrified wash board… how can someone not want one of those.
Hmm. Have you played around with bass guitar? Also four strings as baseline, although I will admit I usually play a five string (B-E-A-D-G rather than E-A-D-G). If you are going to go low, you might as well own the bottom…
My fifteen-year-old wanted a soprano trombone for Christmas – that’s a trumpet-sized trombone – for the same reason. And she’s loving it.
I learned on a 12-string nylon classical guitar, forgot how to play that particular instrument, then relearned years later on a concert-sized six-string once I realized I could jack it into a midi interface and give a little more life to some of my plucked string virtual instruments. But I’ll tell you what, learning guitar is easy, mastering guitar is hard. I prefer 88 ivories most any day.
I don’t know how much you consider “too much”, but Ithaca Strings makes all sorts of custom fretted and non-fretted string instruments (I have one of their 6-string mezzo violas): http://www.ithacastring.com/custom_instruments.php
I play a vintage ’61 Harmony tenor guitar. It wasn’t as cheap as the Gold Tone tenor I started with, but it wasn’t too horribly expensive either, and you can find older instruments on eBay or Craigslist sometimes. I like the sound of the Harmony about a thousand times better than the Gold Tone; the wood is much more live and I get a lot of high end harmonics that I never heard with the GT.
I also have a bit of a stringed instrument problem, though (one six-string, two tenor guitars, a ukulele, a walkabout dulcimer, a bass walkabout dulcimer, an octave mandolin, an 8-string Irish bouzouki, and the custom-made ten-string guitar-bodied bouzouki).
Are you familiar with http://www.luthierbuilt.net? It’s a great place to find all kinds of instrument makers.
Shame on you, Scalzi.
Something can be unique. It cannot be “fairly unique” or “somewhat unique” or “slightly unique.”
I can recommend a short-scale tenor guitar made by the son of a friend:http://fletcherinstruments.com/
in addition to the link on Jamie’s website, also check out Shona Carr playing one in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZpA2h8HH_s
PS: congratulations on “Redshirts” being picked up for TV!
I was going to suggest making your own, but I see you addressed that above. But if you like interesting guitars you might like my Dad’s website: hoffmanguitars.com